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Jeffrey Epstein

sailordeac said:
failed deflection

Biden is impossible to evaluate because he himself does not know what he believes, save for an adamant insistance on gaffs. If he had a third foot, it would be in his mouth too. Let's wait until he is finished groveling before trying to determine what he actually thinks, if anything at all. That he is the leader of the field among the Dems says all you need to know about the condition of your party.

Clinton has gone through so many metamorphoses in her life, even she does not know who and what she is. She certainly does not believe in anything except that she deserves to be the first female president.
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Good lord man you just perfectly described Trump.

I’m glad that you’ve finally come around to publicly admitting you’ll vote for trump over any Dem. Must feel like a burden has been lifted. Praise be.
 
Because we are discussing the “policy” of the governing party.
 
Junebug said:
I’m not really interested in political psychology. I find policy interesting, but this board doesn’t have policy discussion anymore. It’s just wall-to-wall “can you believe what Trump/Fox News/McConnell did today?” I’m kinda over it.
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Meh. What Ph said. There’s also plenty of discussion of Dem policies.

What policies do you support that Trump and the GOP are pushing? Which do you disagree with?

Also, the discussion was that conservatism and republicans are synonymous now. If you disagree, tell us why.
 
tbf i'm not super interested in junebug's federalist society bullshit either

and milhouse said it right, these clowns are getting their judges and their tax cuts, and they do not care about any of the rest of it
 
TownieDeac said:
tbf i'm not super interested in junebug's federalist society bullshit either

and milhouse said it right, these clowns are getting their judges and their tax cuts, and they do not care about any of the rest of it
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I agree. I’m just challenging the victimhood posts by them. They say conservative thought isn’t welcome here. They get push back that says no we want conservative thought/debate. You said so yourself. We also ask for differences between conservative thought and what the gop and trump are currently doing when republicans who are traditionally conservatives poll so high in his support. Then they either disappear or complain again. I’d like to see actual conservatives discuss their thoughts on what they believe and how it conflicts or aligns with the current gop.
 
If anyone wants to step up to defend the theory behind the tax cuts, especially the nonsense that they "pay for themselves," I would actually welcome that. Can't really argue with the court packing strategy, it's a winner.
 
TownieDeac said:
If anyone wants to step up to defend the theory behind the tax cuts, especially the nonsense that they "pay for themselves," I would actually welcome that. Can't really argue with the court packing strategy, it's a winner.
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Junebug? Taker?
 
DDA said:
Junebug — how do you explain this? Have some dialogue.
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Those polls are from people who self identify as Republicans. I think a large number of people who would have identified that way a decade ago no longer do so.
 
Yeah I kinda wish we could have this partisan spat elsewhere, I'm utterly fascinated by this Epstein mess. I wish it would drag down half of the global 1% but it seems destined to just die out and get covered up at this point.
 
Donald Trump is proving that the “conservative principles” of the GOP were never principles at all, they were just things they say to get elected. So if you vote GOP even after Trump is gone then what do you think is changing?

Fiscal conservatism, at least what I thought I agreed with the GOP on, is dead in the modern GOP. There is no responsibility, no being careful, just recklessness.

This tax cut was shamelessly borrowed from China. It’s opening a credit card and taking cash out, then pretending you’re rich. Even worse it is public debt to pay for private wealth.

The economy is like a car driving down the highway - the GOP is removing guardrails, seatbelts, cheapening the brakes and putting a brick on the accelerator. “But the car is going faster under Trump” they say. Yeah great so when Trump keeps yanking on the wheel with his tariffs or any of his other bullshit what’s going to keep us on the road? Conservatism to me should include safeguards to moderate stupid shit like this, not irresponsibly flooring it like a teenager and wrapping the car around a tree.
 
DeaconCav06 said:
Those polls are from people who self identify as Republicans. I think a large number of people who would have identified that way a decade ago no longer do so.
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A decade ago, we were headed into a 2008 election cycle in which the Republicans were soundly defeated. The GOP is stronger now than it was then.
 
So yeah as a “fiscal conservative” my views are shifting very far away from the GOPs version and much more towards “fiscal responsibility” which is way closer to Dem land these days. I may disagree with ideas like a wealth tax so maybe they’re not 100% in line with me. Fine. I’m voting Dem for the foreseeable future. When you have cancer, chemotherapy wreaks havoc on your body but you do it anyway. Because the most important thing is removing the cancer.
 
PhDeac said:
A decade ago, we were headed into a 2008 election cycle in which the Republicans were soundly defeated. The GOP is stronger now than it was then.
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Is it stronger or are the Dems weaker?
 
Junebug said:
I’m not really interested in political psychology. I find policy interesting, but this board doesn’t have policy discussion anymore. It’s just wall-to-wall “can you believe what Trump/Fox News/McConnell did today?” I’m kinda over it.
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Yeah, what passes as "talking politics" these days is laughable.
 
DeaconCav06 said:
Those polls are from people who self identify as Republicans. I think a large number of people who would have identified that way a decade ago no longer do so.
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I believed this until two weeks ago when I saw roughly the same percentage of the populous identified as republicans today as they did Election Day in 2016. In fact it’s two percent higher currently but that’s within the margin of error.

For sure selection regarding Donald and identifying as republican is a part but I don’t believe it is now as major a part as I previously believed.
 
Demonwolverine said:
Yeah, what passes as "talking politics" these days is laughable.
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I mean what is there to talk about really? People have to respond to Donald’s inane daily talking points because he takes policy areas up at a whim and the republicans cowardly follow along with whatever the deranged dementia patient wants to play along with. If Greenland stays in the cycle another 24-48 hours you’ll find plenty of republican senators stating that this is a grand idea and that it should be a litmus test for what any true American would support. And this is a topic that literally no elected official has in their top 100 interests or has even opined on as far as I can tell. Republicans are just spineless cowards today.
 
It's like blaming Wake fans for the lack of quality discussion about Wake hoops.
 
But yeah I agree with everyone who has said that conservatives now want to have their cake and eat it too (and can plausibly do so). They don’t have to say they support Donald publicly and they don’t really care too much because even though he’s not a conservative (he isn’t anything beyond a narcissist) he got them their judges so they don’t care about anything else. Can feign moral outrage and say they don’t care but still probably vote Donald over 50 percent of the time.

Not aimed at Cav who has always come across as a sincere and honest poster about his beliefs and doesn’t strike me as a Donald guy.
 
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