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2019-20 College Basketball Thread

Jay Bilas: "Officials are great, it's the officiating that's a problem." :rolleyes:
 
Who gets fired first? Manning or Smart?

Apparently, both have significant buyouts (we know Smart's because it is public)... Will the Longhorns wait until the end of the season?
 
DeacsATS said:
Who gets fired first? Manning or Smart?

Apparently, both have significant buyouts (we know Smart's because it is public)... Will the Longhorns wait until the end of the season?
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Texas has more deep pocket guys. Some of them were not happy when Shaka was the choice at TX.
 
DeacDaddy said:
In fact State will likely pull this one out.
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And NC State did win on the road. UVA missed two threes that would have tied or won the game in the last 10 sec. State tried to give the game away by fouling UVA and by missing their own FTs. But UVA didn't want it, missing shots in the last minute.
 
UVA's first home loss to State since 2005.

I thought UVA would improve during the season, but they are just pathetic offensively. So bad that even superior defense can't make up for their offensive woes.

KP rated UVA as the #239 team on offense (#2 on defense). By way of comparison, Wake Forest is rated as the #82 offensive team, and the Deacs are not particularly talented or well coached. Even so, UVA is rated 157 spots below WF. Among the teams rated ahead of UVA on offense: Brown, Montana, Western Illinois, Wagner, Bryant and Citadel. Just embarrassing for a defending national champ.
 
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Pilchard said:
UVA's first home loss to State since 2005.

I thought UVA would improve during the season, but they are just pathetic offensively. So bad, that even superior defense can't make up for their offensive woes.

KP rated UVA as the #239 team on offense (#2 on defense). By way of comparison, Wake Forest is rated as the #82 offensive team, and the Deacs are not particularly talented or well coached. Even so, UVA is rated 157 spots below WF. Among the teams rated ahead of UVA on offense: Brown, Montana, Western Illinois, Wagner, Bryant and Citadel. Just embarrassing for a defending national champ.
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Having Guy, Jerome, and Hunter to pass to hid a lot of Clark's deficiencies.
 
Could be a crazy three year run for UVa. First 1 seed to lose in the first round, national champs, NIT.
 
Deaconblue said:
And NC State did win on the road. UVA missed two threes that would have tied or won the game in the last 10 sec. State tried to give the game away by fouling UVA and by missing their own FTs. But UVA didn't want it, missing shots in the last minute.
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Ugh. What another bad game to watch. Inserting Caffaro in the 2nd half was a great idea because he's tough, and Huff was getting abused by Funderburk. But Tony also lifted both Key and Woldetensae with like 11-12:00 left and neither returned. Woldetensae had effed up a play on D. Not sure if Key was injured or not, but he's 1 of the 2 guys on the team who is a legit ACC player, so not sure why he didn't return. But his absence is 1 of the main reasons UVA couldn't hit a shot in the last 5:00. I know Woldetensae misses occasional assignments, but playing Stattman the last 12:00 is just death. He does nothing well. Nice to see Morsell hit a few shots, but he also couldn't hit anything down the stretch. I loved Caffaro picking up the double tech with Funderburk and then drawing Funderburk's 5th, and Keatts was stupid to have left him in the game at that point. But UVA's lack of scoring bailed him out.

What is the consensus on how long Funderburk stays? I've been impressed the 3 times I've seen him. He has decent touch and has a pretty refined post game and seems to have a pretty good hoops IQ for a freshman big. Given how weak this draft is, I'd be more than tempted to bolt now if I were him. He handled Tony's packline doubles as well as any young big I can remember watching.
 
cville deac said:
Ugh. What another bad game to watch. Inserting Caffaro in the 2nd half was a great idea because he's tough, and Huff was getting abused by Funderburk. But Tony also lifted both Key and Woldetensae with like 11-12:00 left and neither returned. Woldetensae had effed up a play on D. Not sure if Key was injured or not, but he's 1 of the 2 guys on the team who is a legit ACC player, so not sure why he didn't return. But his absence is 1 of the main reasons UVA couldn't hit a shot in the last 5:00. I know Woldetensae misses occasional assignments, but playing Stattman the last 12:00 is just death. He does nothing well. Nice to see Morsell hit a few shots, but he also couldn't hit anything down the stretch. I loved Caffaro picking up the double tech with Funderburk and then drawing Funderburk's 5th, and Keatts was stupid to have left him in the game at that point. But UVA's lack of scoring bailed him out.

What is the consensus on how long Funderburk stays? I've been impressed the 3 times I've seen him. He has decent touch and has a pretty refined post game and seems to have a pretty good hoops IQ for a freshman big. Given how weak this draft is, I'd be more than tempted to bolt now if I were him. He handled Tony's packline doubles as well as any young big I can remember watching.
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Funderburk is a RS Jr.

Bates (DNP-Concussion) is the freshman big.
 
bth9673 said:
Funderburk is a RS Jr.

Bates (DNP-Concussion) is the freshman big.
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Funderbruk has always been considered a head case, but I can’t remember the details. Either flunked out or was kicked out of Ohio State. Played at Hargrave with Braxton Beverly —. Recollect that many thought it was questionable when Keatts brought him to State.
 
bth9673 said:
Funderburk is a RS Jr.

Bates (DNP-Concussion) is the freshman big.
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Sorry, my bad. I thought the program had him listed as a freshman, and I didn't see much of State last year. He looked really good last night until the joint tech and picking up his 5th on the perimeter.
 
TexasDeac1 said:
Funderbruk has always been considered a head case, but I can’t remember the details. Either flunked out or was kicked out of Ohio State. Played at Hargrave with Braxton Beverly —. Recollect that many thought it was questionable when Keatts brought him to State.
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Matta redshirted Funderburk, then Holtmann kicked him off the team for "failure to meet team expectations". Rumor was always academics since he was suspended beforehand and went Juco, don't think anyone thought it was weird Keatts was taking a former top 50 guy especially with the Hargrave connection. Don't think he's a headcase but definitely has a tendency to pick up dumb fouls and disappear at times, but I can't remember the last State big that didn't. Loves to drive cars with parking enforcement boots on them.
 
Bennett may struggle with player selection. As a defense first coach he will may go with his best defensive players to the detriment of his offense and lose when he could win. Dave Odom was plagued by this his last three seasons at Wake. He put Vidaurreta and Shoemaker on the court together far too often. They were better defenders than Songaila and Scott but offerred little offensively and the team struggled. With Darius or Antwann on the court, the defense was still good and each offered offensive skills that enhanced the offense and forced the opponents defense to cover all five players. The balance between offense and defense can be a problem for coaches like Bennett and Odom if options seem limited.
 
BlackjackMc said:
Bennett may struggle with player selection. As a defense first coach he will may go with his best defensive players to the detriment of his offense and lose when he could win. Dave Odom was plagued by this his last three seasons at Wake. He put Vidaurreta and Shoemaker on the court together far too often. They were better defenders than Songaila and Scott but offerred little offensively and the team struggled. With Darius or Antwann on the court, the defense was still good and each offered offensive skills that enhanced the offense and forced the opponents defense to cover all five players. The balance between offense and defense can be a problem for coaches like Bennett and Odom if options seem limited.
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That's not true. Guy and Jerome were two of the weaker defenders of the Bennett era and they got as many minutes as they could handle because of their offense. Bennett has no choice this year because he has no good offensive options at guard. It's not as if there's a Guy-like player who's languishing on the bench because his defense isn't good enough. It's so bad a 5'9 freshman walk-on gets non-garbage playing time semi-regularly.

The neo-Nazi protest scared off potential recruits during that cycle, including a player named David Duke who ended up at Providence. That, combined with the early departures of Guy and Jerome, has resulted in the complete lack of depth at the guard position. UVa's incoming class is excellent, and with transfer Hauser becoming eligible, the Hoos will be back competing for the ACC title as soon as next year, more likely the following year.
 
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there was talk on a Hoo bored about Key injuring his ankle during the game. could explain him not playing at the end.

the guards for the Hoos are putrid and there isn't anyone to help Kihei. he has been very turnover prone although it probably
goes with him trying to do too much.

been an ugly year of basketball.
 
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