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Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: Commander will kill us all

It was a bad tweet and his attempt to rectify it isn't much better.

 
PhDeac said:
It was a bad tweet and his attempt to rectify it isn't much better.

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What’s wrong with the tweet? Dude shouldn’t be primarying Markey, but otherwise civil Gideon and m4a are dope policies
 
Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: debacle 69% of the time, every time

I’m going to savor this moment. MHB and I agree and Strick is aligned with OGB Big Legal.

Strick, take out the last six words of each tweet and it’s a far better message.
 
Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: debacle 69% of the time, every time

PhDeac said:
I’m going to savor this moment. MHB and I agree and Strick is aligned with OGB Big Legal.

Strick, take out the last six words of each tweet and it’s a far better message.
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I’ve been organizing for a civil right to counsel for the last 5 years. If medical bankruptcy cases get us there, then that’s fine by me. A right to counsel in eviction cases would be a game changer. The outcome disparity is insane.

Fair re: tweet word deletion tho
 
Kennedys don’t like to wait their turn.
 
avalon said:
Isn't this what reps say when they get primaried from the left?
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Yep. What’s next? “He brings back money for the district.”
 
avalon said:
Isn't this what reps say when they get primaried from the left?
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PhDeac said:
Yep. What’s next? “He brings back money for the district.”
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I'm not sure how I'm being got, but whatever. Y'all got me.

Meanwhile, Kennedy introduced a resolution that, if passed, will lay the foundation of a Civil Gideon in the United States. From his press release:

Newton, MA – As the threat of eviction, medical bankruptcy, domestic violence, and unemployment surge in the face of COVID-19, Congressman Joe Kennedy III today led 14 of his colleagues in introducing a proposal to guarantee the right to counsel in civil proceedings.

More than half a century after Gideon v. Wainwright recognized the right to counsel in criminal proceedings, Kennedy's proposal represents the most progressive expansion of legal aid in the history of the United States Congress. His resolution stipulates that any individual facing legal action involving basic human needs -- health, safety, family, shelter, and sustenance -- be guaranteed an attorney to represent them, regardless of ability to pay.
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In 2019, 94 million Americans could not afford a lawyer. Three quarters of low-income households had experienced a civil legal problem involving domestic violence, veterans’ benefits, disability access, evictions, housing conditions, and health care. Low-income Americans only receive adequate legal aid in civil courts 14% of the time. In Montgomery County, Maryland, domestic violence victims without lawyers are almost three times more likely than those with lawyers to drop their cases before obtaining final protection. In Maricopa County, Arizona, judges take, on average, less than a minute to hear eviction proceedings involving unrepresented tenants, with judgments overwhelmingly favoring landlords.
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Kennedy’s Civil Gideon resolution is cosponsored by Representatives Susan Brooks (R-IN), Steve Cohen (D-TN), Debbie Dingell (D-MI), Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), Jamie Raskin (D-MD), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Bobby Scott (D-VA), Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), José E. Serrano (D-NY), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), Ann McLane Kuster (D-NH) and Fred Upton (R-MI). To read his resolution, please click here.

It has received the support of the following organizations: American Bar Association (ABA), National Legal Aid & Defender Association (NLADA), The National Coalition for a Civil Right to Counsel, National Center for Lesbian Rights, Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs, Jane Doe Inc. (Massachusetts Coalition Against Sexual and Domestic Violence), National Alliance to End Sexual Violence, NETWORK Lobby for Catholic Social Justice, Shriver Center on Poverty Law, National Housing Law Project, National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty, Association of Pro Bono Counsel (APBCo), Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, Massachusetts Law Reform Institute, Boston Bar Association, National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, National Association of Counsel for Children (NACC), Lambda Legal, and GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders (GLAD).
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No talk about the HEROES Act? 1800 pages so, yeah, I don't know everything that's in it. But seems like lots of good stuff, including directly folding in my favorite piece of current Dem legislation, expanding and making fully refundable the child tax credit. Also more cash, more SNAP, more enhanced UI. Seems good!
 
tiltdeac said:
No talk about the HEROES Act? 1800 pages so, yeah, I don't know everything that's in it. But seems like lots of good stuff, including directly folding in my favorite piece of current Dem legislation, expanding and making fully refundable the child tax credit. Also more cash, more SNAP, more enhanced UI. Seems good!
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no payroll protection that jayapal and 60 other house dems backed

from politico:

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What was the plan for the Paycheck Guarantee? How did they plan to execute it different than the PPP?
 
I think it's smart strategy to stake out your position a big bill that won't pass, but with lots of good stuff in it and make the Republicans say no

Democrats looked like the bad guys when they were the hold up previously -- put pressure on the Republicans and make them go on record against popular measures

also move the conversation around what's on the table

doesn't seem like a good idea to bail out lobbyists in this case
 
Sadly House Dem message bills don’t get the coverage House Pub message bills used to get.
 
Sadly House Dem message bills don’t get the coverage House Pub message bills used to get.
 
TownieDeac said:
no payroll protection that jayapal and 60 other house dems backed
... other than that, yea, has some decent stuff in it
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There you go again with your purity politics, Townie. Sometimes you have to throw in a provision to bail out corporate lobbyists to *get things done*. What was the alternative, that Pelosi not add that to the bill? How does that work??
 
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