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Better Call Saul, The Mafia Game. Indies Win! Gooner, GAT and Duff

Gooner, find better stuff tonight, last night your reads stunk. I dont want to read back again.

I take a while to warm up. Townie might even say that I'm rusty.
 
I think that looks worse for him, not better. Soft calling out a teammate and putting your vote elsewhere.

i think i made it pretty clear townie was my preference and voted accordingly. still taking half credit for bym though.
 
Day 6 begins with poor Hank Schrader (Juice - cop)lying in the street, riddled with bullets.

Juice = Hank Schrader (Cop/mason) - You are the town cop. Each night you get one alignment investigation. You win with the town. (part of role redacted).

Begin. Day ends at 5:30

***Mod Note*** Please clear your PMs

I was roleblocked

OK if we all want to put our tinfoil hats on for a second, N5 was over 40 minutes long and JMan comes out with this post stating his RB within a min of D6 starting. Probably nothing, maybe something, maybe it's Maybelline, but for those that also thought it was super weird that a vanilla claimed JMan was a N5 RB target when Juice was still around as claimed cop, conspiracy Gooner gets super tingles.
 
I think that looks worse for him, not better. Soft calling out a teammate and putting your vote elsewhere.

Here's another tim post from right at the end of D5 after gouda had been revealed by Juice. So if Da is correct this makes 3 times tim mentioned bym as mafia. Again, I can see what JTP is saying but the way that tim is putting bym in the conversation does not feel like a teammate half mentioning someone to maybe look better, it reads as tim saying "I have a maf read on bym" without any wishy-washiness. I feel stronger about tim as not Salamanca from D5 stuff.

I don't know man. That's a rule of 3 post that could be a now known member of the other mafia, one of the more cleared civs, and his own teammate.
 
Here's another tim post from right at the end of D5 after gouda had been revealed by Juice. So if Da is correct this makes 3 times tim mentioned bym as mafia. Again, I can see what JTP is saying but the way that tim is putting bym in the conversation does not feel like a teammate half mentioning someone to maybe look better, it reads as tim saying "I have a maf read on bym" without any wishy-washiness. I feel stronger about tim as not Salamanca from D5 stuff.

And the gouda vote was after Juice told us he was maf.

But it looks like tim made a soft claim that seems legit.
 
Not on gouda's mafia



this post means jman not likely on gouda's maf

A followup to tinfoil JMan stuff is this from rommy who found the gouda post @JMan that is a decent shout for thinking JMan isn't Fring mafia. I'm inclined to not go full tinfoil hat and just believe that JMan was on a quick trigger with his D6 opening post.
 
No need to majo here. I want to see rommy make a case for himself before he can claim.

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Nice of you to show up, bym.

That's rich.

I fast forwarded a bit to get to the point in the round when rommy (RIP) revealed his role too early, there is this interesting exchange between Ph and bym that feels organic and not like forced teammate banter which would put Ph towards the not Salamanca group as well as also being in the not Fring group. Pretty sure Ph is a civ at this point.
 
Thanks to SD3 (RIP) for calling him out.
 
Vote count thru #1840

duff (4) numbers, rommy, tejas, d14
ph (1) knight
townie (1) jman

YTV (4) da, tim, bym, boston, jtp, sd3, gat, gooner, ph, toogs, duff, townie

Majo is 10.

PM if issues.



Well im way out here as we approach the deadline.

I am Kim Wexler and aligned with the town. Thats all I can say at this point.

So this is the bym action from the point that parlay posted a vote count that showed all rommy votes dropping off until the point in the round where Duff claimed when he was leading by a lot. This further pushes Ph into the not Salamanca group and I think it looks really good for Boston to be the first person to vote for bym there which would also put him in the not Salamanca group + also being in the not Fring group already like Ph + his vig claim being pretty civ to me and I think Boston is very likely civ too.
 
Vote count thru #1866

duff (5) numbers, tejas, d14, tim, gooner
bym (2) boston, ph
townie (2) jman, jtp
boston (1) sd3
jman (1) bym
tejas (1) duff
ph (1) knight

YTV (4) da, gat, toogs, townie

PM if issues

***BYM***


***switch to bym***

Prefer Tejas but switch to

***bym***

And these are the post-Duff claim votes for bym (plus mine but I don't analyze myself unless Townie is being a butt). These have slightly less weight to them than Boston/Ph because they were post-claim but are still fairly strong "not Salamanca" indicators. tim made a switch off Duff to Townie here which isn't great but considering he had already pushed Townie/bym pretty strongly on D5 I think it's reasonable that he just picked the one he had claimed to feel stronger about here.
 
I don't see it with bym and I know for a fact duff is mafia, so ***duff***

This isn't great. I again say that I struggle to believe that toogs is just throwing a vote around without knowing what's going on this late in the round.
 
And that brings us to the current round that I'll probably revisit in the morning. Right now I've got these groups:

Not Either Mafia
Ph
Boston
Townie
numbers (Juice investigation)
Duff (almost certain based on his claim)

Not Fring Mafia
JTP
D14
Da (also small civ lean in general)
Knight (very slight)

Not Salamanca Mafia
JMan (also probably not Fring but I haven't decided 100% yet)
Tim
GAT (also civ lean for his list post and other general tone things)

That leaves Tejas and toogs for players that I don't have eliminated from either mafia and don't have anything else to their name that would make me think they aren't mafia. Not sure which of them I'm gonna vote yet but barring some sort of reveal I'm 99.9% voting between those two.
 
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