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F is for Fascism (Ferguson MO)

palmab03 said:
"some looting and rioting"



I'm angrier about the looting than the murder, and I was fairly angry about the murder. The looting is going to result in thousands of more deaths.
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Yes. There has been “some” looting and rioting. How else would you describe the looting and rioting across America? 99 percent of cities have had none. 99 percent of people going to protests havent looted and rioted.

And the second paragraph I don’t even know how to respond. It’s beyond the pale.
 
Strickland33 said:
Huh, no antifa involvement. Some of y'all gotta quit clutching those pearls.

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/
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myDeaconmyhand said:
so Brews, DG3, and RJ should be relieved that their fears of Antifa orchestrating the riots were unfounded! That's great, right?! Aren't you just so happy to learn that from the FBI?
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Amazing counterintelligence by the @FBI, convincing ANTIFA that nothing currently in Washington DC is fascist.

Highland Deac said:
No surprise, but this won't do any good with the conspiracy crowd. They'll just say that the lack of any hard evidence that Antifa was involved in the DC protests just proves how sneaky and devious they are, and of how they're being protected by LibDems within the government (more conspiracies!) trying to undermine Dear Leader. In effect, the lack of evidence is in itself evidence. It's how these types of people think.
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Latest Conspiracy from me: Bigfoot told me the other day that Highland Deac is a good poster
 
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, Brews. I can't tell anymore. I hope you're kidding. But I think it's pretty clear that antifa isn't to blame for the riots and looting.
 
As serious question for the far left on the board, how do you ever expect your dreams and positions to become reality if you attack and piss off so many people that share much of what you believe in?

I'm hardly the only person so many of you attack. You guys go after almost everyone.

How do you expect to change the world if you piss off even the ones who want to help?
 
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I'm not even going to get into palmas post. I'm aware the looting situation is particularly bad in his area of southern California, but I wasn't referencing that area.
 
Strickland33 said:
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, Brews. I can't tell anymore. I hope you're kidding. But I think it's pretty clear that antifa isn't to blame for the riots and looting.
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I think that's great news that they're not involved in DC. I do still trust the FBI, and I'm impressed with all the intel they've gathered in a short amount of time. The right-wing group that wants to shoot Federal Agents is pretty messed up though. Not a fan of the people in the cars that dropped off the bricks and rocks, whoever they end up being.
 
Didn’t that turn out to be completely false too, think it’s time to take a break from the fringes of the Internet you appear to frequent.
 
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myDeaconmyhand said:
In Philadelphia and New York yesterday there were multiple instances where looting in higher end retail districts was ignored, and peaceful protests in minority communities were attacked. The disproportion of force and intent was clearly discriminatory.
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BillBrasky said:
I noticed this too. It is almost as if the police want images of shameless looting in the media. The NYPD would have done a lot more good if they had left the large peaceful protests alone, and focused on the criminals breaking into stores. But that doesn't fit with their goals. You don't need tanks, automatic weapons and body armour to chase kids away from storefronts.
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myDeaconmyhand said:
Many of the large city protests are being coordinated in public spaces *away* from retail just for this purpose to put seperation between themselves and looters - they're still getting attacked. You saw the video of the protestors trapped between the road and embankment and being teargassed from both sides so they had nowhere to disperse. That crowd was nowhere near a business.
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BillBrasky said:
Nobody on here is okay with the looting of small businesses, okay. We're not. I didn't bust into a fucking nail salon last night.

However those of us with a grain of fucking empathy and foresight and can understand why a bunch of kids are doing it. They've been locked at home for three months with little to no income coming in, many come from families who could barely made it day-to-day before the pandemic, and they have no hope. No opportunity. So when they see one, they take it. It is what impoverished people do when they have no other outlets.

We don't condone, we agree that it is counterproductive, but continuing to harp on the looting that everyone agrees is wrong is helping nothing. It dilutes the message, and reminds the rest of us that you do value property over people. Even if you do claim to be a liberal. And honestly you are just as big a problem as Trump and his imbred armies. Stop being so easily blinded.
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myDeaconmyhand said:
Examining the rationality of the property destruction is tilting at windmills. If you're an old guy getting mad about it, then it served its purpose. With the exception of a few obvious landmarks like police stations, civil war monuments, banks, I would hesitate to attach any political motivation to the property destruction. People (kids) are very destructive when they can get away with it. People shoot up stop signs, trash construction sites, destroy bathroom stalls. It's not political.
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Wakeforest22890 said:
If you're angrier/choosing to direct your anger at actions of those protesting (with some looting/rioting involved) than the underlying reasons for the protests (structural racism, killer cops, militarization of local communities and cops) then you are part of the problem.

Check your values.
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tiltdeac said:
Do you guys really think any of the (serious) posters here are *angrier* about the looting than the murder? Seems like a bit of a strawman.
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Wakeforest22890 said:
Yes. There has been “some” looting and rioting. How else would you describe the looting and rioting across America? 99 percent of cities have had none. 99 percent of people going to protests havent looted and rioted.

And the second paragraph I don’t even know how to respond. It’s beyond the pale.
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Well it's at least the second or third largest riots in the history since the civil war, and easily on pace to be the largest. That's why saying it's "some" looting and rioting is retarded.
 
Sorry, guess maybe it did happen somewhere. Bunch of articles out that had to dispute a bunch of reports of bricks and rocks that were found to have been in place long before protests broke out.
 
Christ, I'm gonna be stuck quoting all that shit for the next year. Thanks, ogboards.
 
palmab03 said:
Well it's at least the second or third largest riots in the history since the civil war, and easily on pace to be the largest. That's why saying it's "some" looting and rioting is retarded.
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you can post whatever, there's plenty of video evidence showing police attacking peaceful protests and innocent bystanders all over the fucking country that are completely unrelated to looting. People didn't get their houses tear gassed for looting. If you want to keep posting about the shit going down in your city, be my guest - I appreciate the perspective, but you're speaking ignorantly about alot of the other protests that you're clearly less aware of
 
Where’s Ph been? probably not rioting but doing some nerd shit but I have a way to get him back on this thread.

 
 
palmab03 said:
These are terrible takes. The officers are staying together because they don't want to risk their lives, and the looters are everywhere.



There's mass looting nation wide. There's not nearly enough harping on the looting in this thread. The looting doesn't stop if half the country thinks it's not that big of a deal. And if the looting doesn't stop its obviously going to work out worse for the black community than if it continues. We'll be voting in pubs for another 20 years.



I agree its not political whatsoever, but rationalizing looting in groups of hundreds as just kids being kids is ridiculous.



"some looting and rioting"



I'm angrier about the looting than the murder, and I was fairly angry about the murder. The looting is going to result in thousands of more deaths.
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Hey guys, the looting is going to really piss off those people who got really pissed off about *checks notes* a guy kneeling before a football game. We need to care more about looting than murder so the police don't use looting as an excuse to murder even though they don't need an excuse because they almost always get away with it.


Louis Gossett Jr said:
Where’s Ph been? probably not rioting but doing some nerd shit but I have a way to get him back on this thread.

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Yep. Doing nerd shit. Did a guest spot on a podcast talking about everything going on. Posted on the mafia thread. Watched another fun Legends of Tomorrow season finale. Now to do my nightly task of convincing my boys they have to go to bed even though every day is the same exact day.

Here is an exercise for you. Which superhero would assist the cops in beating up peaceful protesters?
 
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