Non-Political Coronavirus Thread

[Rafi]

Non politically, I wonder if there might be a reason why certain people wouldn’t want to accept this as true.

Added caveat that I have no personal expertise to determine whether it is, but the author seems to have pretty good credentials.

Personally, I would be extremely happy if it turned out that hydroxychloroquine was effective for COVID19. I think almost everyone would. I thank knowell for posting the Newsweek article, as I found it interesting to read.

The problem with this guy's take is that he puts a lot of emphasis on poorly designed studies (which show benefit), and he puts little emphasis on the well-designed studies (which showed harm). This is why his opinion is contrary to most treating physicians. He would argue that the well-designed studies looked at hydroxy in later stages of COVID, and that in earlier stages there may be benefit. Fortunately, there are several studies that are looking at this question (early treatment), so hopefully we'll have clear answers soon.

 

[PhDeac]

Non politically, I wonder if there might be a reason why certain people wouldn’t want to accept this as true.

Added caveat that I have no personal expertise to determine whether it is, but the author seems to have pretty good credentials.

Looks like he's a favorite doc in conservative media circles.

 

[DeaconSig]

Dr. Knowell will save us all.

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

a question about the data

as I shared, my sister-in-law tested three times due to the improved turnaround time promised at each of her subsequent tests

assuming no false negative (she's gotten two back, both positive), are the announced daily positive counts cross referencing data sets to avoid reporting the same positive test twice?

 

[Rafi]

a question about the data

as I shared, my sister-in-law tested three times due to the improved turnaround time promised at each of her subsequent tests

assuming no false negative (she's gotten two back, both positive), are the announced daily positive counts cross referencing data sets to avoid reporting the same positive test twice?

I think the answer is almost certainly "no." Each test is considered an individual data point and not tied to other tests that person may have taken.

 

[tagsfan]

Try again boomer.

Just another variation on Godwin's Law.

 

[Louis Gossett Jr]

Yeah the reporting is a shit show and definitely would count all three tests if all three tests were reported. If you went and did a deep dive of the data you could cross reference names and dates and then go from there. Pretty much all testing information before making a report requires extensive data cleanup, as in its multiple people's full time job to clean data before others do analysis. In this setting the data is what it is and maybe in the future can be revisited.

Reporting for any disease needs serious revamping in this country, and maybe the pandemic will be the push that is needed. There is no standard form, procedure, or collection method. The data gets compiled from hospitals, local and public health agencies, and its like a game of telephone as pieces of information are dropped and others added. In the end when you want to compile it all you will have this mismatching mess with a nesting doll of linked personal identifiers, often the person personal information anyway, then non-standard clinical assessments. Sometimes age and sex don't even match the information correctly. It is mostly a case of people not really caring.

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

yeah, I think one silver lining of COVID is that it may result in better preparation for future viruses

while COVID is bad, it's not hard to imagine a much worse one -- just imagine if kids were the ones that were most vulnerable

 

[PhDeac]

yeah, I think one silver lining of COVID is that it may result in better preparation for future viruses

while COVID is bad, it's not hard to imagine a much worse one -- just imagine if kids were the ones that were most vulnerable

We would have had better preparation for this virus based on previous viruses if we had better leadership.

I’ve been wondering how the NBA and I assume WNBA and MLS daily COVID tests impact positivity rates. I think the positivity rate has been going down over the last few weeks and they test enough people to artificially lower the rate.

 

[BeachBumDeac]

Just another variation on Godwin's Law.

The person bitching to management that the rules didn’t apply to him was the Karen of the situation. Try to keep up.

 

[Grabs Turds Bare]

[video]https://www.youtube.com/Dn-gHeOnL9c[/video]

Please let this be scripted. Please ....I need this. I need this to be fake to keep my shredded faith in humanity alive.

 

[scooter84]

[video]https://www.youtube.com/Dn-gHeOnL9c[/video]

Please let this be scripted. Please ....I need this. I need this to be fake to keep my shredded faith in humanity alive.

It looked like they were at some sort of festival or gathering... Maybe it was the flat-Earthers, that would explain a lot.

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

is that Jonesy and Shoresy from Letterkenny?

 

[Rafi]

We would have had better preparation for this virus based on previous viruses if we had better leadership.

I’ve been wondering how the NBA and I assume WNBA and MLS daily COVID tests impact positivity rates. I think the positivity rate has been going down over the last few weeks and they test enough people to artificially lower the rate.

They make a difference, as do pre-op testing, hospital discharge testing, testing mandated by other jobs, etc.

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

We would have had better preparation for this virus based on previous viruses if we had better leadership.

better response, of course, but better preparation, doesn't seem to be the case

googling around the internet seems to show that pandemic preparedness and public health funds have been cut pretty consistently since Bush took office, further during the Obama years, and further under Trump

also seem to be cut pretty consistently at the state level over the same period of time

 

[WFFaithful]

yeah, I think one silver lining of COVID is that it may result in better preparation for future viruses

while COVID is bad, it's not hard to imagine a much worse one -- just imagine if kids were the ones that were most vulnerable

Lol. America cannot plan for the future. America at best is reactionary. With Covid, America has chosen inaction.

 

[Louis Gossett Jr]

Yeah, public health is one of the biggest future thinking components there is and the government hates spending for problems that don’t necessarily exist in the here and now. You spend a couple billion today it will save you 100s of billions down the road when it comes to public health, but that down the road is someone else’s problem and won’t help me get re-elected.

 

[PhDeac]

Yeah, public health is one of the biggest future thinking components there is and the government hates spending for problems that don’t necessarily exist in the here and now. You spend a couple billion today it will save you 100s of billions down the road when it comes to public health, but that down the road is someone else’s problem and won’t help me get re-elected.

The government hates spending for future problems unless it’s military spending.

 

[birdman]

yeah, I think one silver lining of COVID is that it may result in better preparation for future viruses

Wishful thinking, I think. We actually learned some of the lessons on being prepared for pandemics during the SARS, H1N1 and Ebola out breaks and then quickly forgot them.

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

Wishful thinking, I think. We actually learned some of the lessons on being prepared for pandemics during the SARS, H1N1 and Ebola out breaks and then quickly forgot them.

i hear ya, but this is in on a totally different scale


my test came back negative and I'm kinda bummed, to be honest