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2021 ACC Championship Thread: WAKE vs. PITT (Dec 4 - 8pm)

Yeah. I haven't seen that pop up in much of the analysis. The big question here is if our weak run D will make their weak running game better.
 
IAppreciateIt said:
Interesting that the common thread refers to how Clemson’s D shut us down and lays a blueprint for Pitt to copy. We scored more against Clemson than anyone else and after the first quarter (which I think could be somewhat attributed to missing Jurgens and having three O-Linemen playing out of position) we moved the ball really well (when we weren’t fumbling).

What Clemson really exposed was our pathetic run defense, which isn’t really the tendency of Pitts offense. I can see them hurting us with the run and playaction, but we will see. Especially if Carson plays, our CBs might be the strength of our defense anyway.
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Presumably we also laid that blueprint for BC and nearly dropped half a hundred on them so idk
 
IAppreciateIt said:
Interesting that the common thread refers to how Clemson’s D shut us down and lays a blueprint for Pitt to copy. We scored more against Clemson than anyone else and after the first quarter (which I think could be somewhat attributed to missing Jurgens and having three O-Linemen playing out of position) we moved the ball really well (when we weren’t fumbling).

What Clemson really exposed was our pathetic run defense, which isn’t really the tendency of Pitts offense. I can see them hurting us with the run and playaction, but we will see. Especially if Carson plays, our CBs might be the strength of our defense so in theory we can get away with more man coverage.
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because the 1Q counts and I have no idea if that same argument wouldn't apply to another team (taking away a bad quarter)

half the points came in the 4th with the game out of hand -- are all the stats against first string guys?

what I'm saying is are we comparing apples to apples?
 
SC DEAC said:
Do we really care if we repair our relationship with billy packer? That seems like an awful lot of butt kissing and for what? Billy packer is not relevant in 2021.
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Yeah, the dude doesn't have a voice or a platform any longer from which to continually let his bad attitude towards MSD show. Let it go. He moved on. We're bigger than Billy Packer.
 
Pitt is better than Clemsons D against run but there passing D is worse than everyone we have played in ACC except for Duke. To say it is going to be an air show is an understatement and I don’t see Pitt slowing our O down with our offensive line although they are as good as Clemson with sacks. So key will be to avoid Hartman getting abused regularly especially early on and avoid a sack that turns into a TO.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
because the 1Q counts and I have no idea if that same argument wouldn't apply to another team (taking away a bad quarter)

half the points came in the 4th with the game out of hand -- are all the stats against first string guys?

what I'm saying is are we comparing apples to apples?
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i was saying that despite the first quarter we scored more points than anyone else, not excluding the first quarter. even ignoring any caveats, it doesn’t make sense that clemson’s d would be a blueprint since we did better against them than anyone else.
 
saltydeac said:
Pitt is better than Clemsons D against run but there passing D is worse than everyone we have played in ACC except for Duke. To say it is going to be an air show is an understatement and I don’t see Pitt slowing our O down with our offensive line although they are as good as Clemson with sacks. So key will be to avoid Hartman getting abused regularly especially early on and avoid a sack that turns into a TO.
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Clawson talked about it in one of his pressers I think but winning on first down is SO important for this offense. And then if we get a couple first downs put together we can really start to hurt teams. Limiting the three and out possessions tomorrow is critical.
 
If Pitt’s passing D is not good, then they may test the refs with some early PI. Will be curious to see how it’s called and what tone is set in our first or second drive.
 
saltydeac said:
Pitt is better than Clemsons D against run but there passing D is worse than everyone we have played in ACC except for Duke. To say it is going to be an air show is an understatement and I don’t see Pitt slowing our O down with our offensive line although they are as good as Clemson with sacks. So key will be to avoid Hartman getting abused regularly especially early on and avoid a sack that turns into a TO.
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my pessimistic take would be that despite what the overall numbers might suggest, we are not that great of an offense when we are one-dimensional. i heard we had the most even run vs pass split, and i think that’s the key to our offense.

if pitt can really shut down our run game and we end up having to throw a ton i could see us getting into some trouble. as good as hartman is running our offense, i don’t think he’s nearly as good as a vanilla drop back passer. really hoping ellison and CBS can go. ultimately don’t think they can stop our run game without putting extra guys in the box so i think we will be good.
 
DeacDaddy said:
If Pitt’s passing D is not good, then they may test the refs with some early PI. Will be curious to see how it’s called and what tone is set in our first or second drive.
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Could see the same strategy Grobe used vs. Megatron. Take the 15 yard PI instead of getting beat deep.
 
PhDeac said:
Could see the same strategy Grobe used vs. Megatron. Take the 15 yard PI instead of getting beat deep.
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Nartuzzi made a point of talking about Perry pushing off in his press conference.
 
tsywake said:
Oh yeah, it was pretty awesome. Ended up being better and bigger than the Deacon Club Tailgate. 94Deac was with us when we bought out every ounce of beer at the local Walmarket before the game. We literally had his pickup truck bed full of beer. Plus, I was interviewed by some Orange Bowl folks while drinking a beer.
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My dad and I plus DF09 and his dad were the only guys that beat you into the lot. We were waiting there for a while before they let us in too
 
WRS said:
Clawson talked about it in one of his pressers I think but winning on first down is SO important for this offense. And then if we get a couple first downs put together we can really start to hurt teams. Limiting the three and out possessions tomorrow is critical.
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Yep. If we can get a drive going, our ability to not sub wreaks havoc on defenses in preventing them from subbing as well.
 
We can’t have a bad first quarter like Clemson. Need to be prepared for pressure on the first few series. I also don’t think we’ll get the PI treatment we got at Clemson, which was brutal.
 
Is he the halftime show? Can’t seem to find any info on that

 
TV question. I’m in the Jacksonville area for a short period, staying at a hotel. I now see, unexpectedly, that there is a dispute involving Dish that seems to have blacked out ABC, among other major networks. That seems to preclude watching the Wake game tomorrow. Any reasonable alternatives? Other than just radio? 🤬
 
Sgt Harp said:
TV question. I’m in the Jacksonville area for a short period, staying at a hotel. I now see, unexpectedly, that there is a dispute involving Dish that seems to have blacked out ABC, among other major networks. That seems to preclude watching the Wake game tomorrow. Any reasonable alternatives? Other than just radio? 🤬
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Go to a bar. Hoptinger in Riverside will defintely put it on (and if they don't just say you know Merski...they all know I'm a die hard Wake fan).
 
Thanks. We’re in Amelia Island without independent wheels, at least for long distances. Alternatives online?
 
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