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MBB Game 10: USC Upstate - Saturday 7 pm LJVM - RSN

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I love this guy so damn much.
 
I think we all expected he would be pretty good, but did anyone expect he would be this good? I admittedly don’t watch much Oklahoma basketball, but did he look this good last year or did he up his game significantly over the summer?

In one of the worst commitment evaluations in boards history, Pilchard referred to Williams as a "nothing burger." Others were higher on him, but he didn't get a ton of fanfare.

Hope to be wrong, but the Alondes Williams commit seems like a nothing burger. He's a below average defender, and not an offensive factor at all in his two years at Oklahoma. Seems like a Jalen Johnson that doesn't shoot as well. Trying not to overrate Hildreth or McCray, but I'm not jazzed about Williams taking minutes from those guys, unless next year's WF team is competing for an NCAA bid, and Williams is playing materially beneficial role. Hard to see that happening.

I think you are a nothing burger.

I look at it more as a low risk, high reward pickup. Underwhelming at OK in terms of shooting, but still gave them almost 20mpg. I think he's a scorer first, which should be helpful with the loss of Dubose. He also has size and athleticism. If he can figure out how to shoot again (he shot the 3 well in high school and in juco), he could be a solid rotation guy on a VERY young team. He's also been on winning teams.

Worst case, he seems like a guy that can compete hard for minutes in practice, providing some experience and making everyone a little bit better.

Williams is a dunker, not a shooter. Not much of a defender. But he brings experience playing for a winning program and a HOF coach and depth.

none of our returning guys can take it hard to the hoop and dunk over someone so even if Williams can only do that, he has a role on this team. My only worry is that McCray, Hildreth, and Lucas are all competing with him (and he's older, stronger, more experienced) and with the landscape the way it is in college basketball, it's hard to see all three of those coming back for their sophomore year if they don't get playing time as Frosh.

Hard disagree. Lol that you would compare him to Jalen Johnson. Do you really think Johnson would have contributed on last year's Oklahoma team? Alondes will carve out a nice little roll for us next season.

Williams was at the back end of Oklahoma's rotation. He was 7th in minutes for the Sooners and they didn't have depth. Look I love Forbes, and he's elite evaluator of talent; so, if Forbes likes Williams, that's good enough for me. Feel like five years from now, we will strain to remember Alondes Williams played for WF. The ceiling for WF next year is an NIT bid and that may be a reach. If WF is going to be mediocre, I'd rather give the minutes to the players (Hildreth, McCray, Lucas) that will be difference makers when WF is an NCAA Tourney team.

Then again, will readily admit that I watched OKlahoma play multiple times this year, and didn't know who Alondes Williams was until he almost got a backdoor cover for me against Gonzaga. So, my thoughts on the significance of his future contributions for WF are less than zero.

Pilch I always appreciate your insights and know that you know your shit, but I'd be hard-pressed to think that Williams won't be an upgrade from our role players over the past decade. He's a definite take and there's zero risk involved.

Always gotta take in account that Lucas/Rob/Cam are Forbes' guys, so it's less likely they'll transfer after 1 season for not getting the PT they desire.

I'm pumped for Alondes.
 
that game was legit fun, but USC Upstate is very bad

excited for this team's future

it was especially nice to see Carter knock down some shots
 
marsh is not ready

does not seem like it, but he's a freshman behind three seasoned big guys, so hopefully he can get up to speed. the biggest issue for him is that he's just too slow on the uptake for an ACC basketball game right now imo
 
Does anybody on here stream via Twitch? It could be fun for somebody to run a live stream of games on their channel for folks who aren't able to get Ballys games.
 
Williams post-game "We just gotta shock the world and let em know we coming"
 
Gotta love the message this sends to the fan base. Show up every game or you might miss something special.
 
Unfortunately, after all the drama trying to figure out how to watch…thx for the help…I didn’t get to see a lot of this game…just played it in the background while domestic duties took priority of my attention…but it sure is nice to win games easily that we think we should.

And a triple double for Williams! Fantastic.

Looking forward to the rest of the season!
 
does not seem like it, but he's a freshman behind three seasoned big guys, so hopefully he can get up to speed. the biggest issue for him is that he's just too slow on the uptake for an ACC basketball game right now imo

After one of Marsh's misses, I saw Sy coaching him up. He can learn a lot from the guys ahead of him.
 
In one of the worst commitment evaluations in boards history, Pilchard referred to Williams as a "nothing burger." Others were higher on him, but he didn't get a ton of fanfare.

Wow. That was a seriously strong (and bad) take from Pilch.
 
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I love this guy so damn much.

If the bad beat doesn’t get us on svp, this might.

Forbes had the kind of personality that tv execs love come March. If we can make a run, we’ll get some fun exposure.
 
Bart Torvik currently gives Wake an 86.5% chance of making the tournament. Wow.
 
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