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PaddyWF said:
150?! Are you a military brat?

I'm not sure I am more than 35-40.
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My wife and I have been together for 9 years and have had 13 different addresses.

I went to 3 different schools in 3rd grade. I’m easily 150 plus.
 
I am thinking close to 100. I grew up in the same house my whole childhood but my dad moved a few times. + sleepovers as a kid, friends places during college, trips to see friends in new cities, etc.
 
Watching Willy's Wonderland on Hulu and like 5 minutes of it is Nic Cage caressing a pinball machine ("pin") so make sure you check it out plama
 
TenaciousKory said:
Watching Willy's Wonderland on Hulu and like 5 minutes of it is Nic Cage caressing a pinball machine ("pin") so make sure you check it out plama
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I couldn’t even get past the one nitro scene to that movie, just awful
 
Does it seem like an abnormally high number of famous people are dying recently?
 
WakeBored is really putting on a performance for the ages. Incredible stuff.
 
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YoungBuck95 said:
WakeBored is really putting on a performance for the ages. Incredible stuff.
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Thank you. I get really tired of people who claim to want to “listen to the science” misinterpret the science to support their policy preferences. If someone has different policy preferences from me, that’s fine, but stop pretending like your view is dictated from your (mis)interpretation of the “science.” Some people just get drunk off the power of telling people what they can and can’t do. The religious right wants to outlaw homosexuality; the the looney left wants to mandate COVID vaccinations. I personally prefer bourbon.
 
WakeBored, are you against all vaccine mandates or just COVID? Can you explain why?
 
WakeBored said:
Thank you. I get really tired of people who claim to want to “listen to the science” misinterpret the science to support their policy preferences. If someone has different policy preferences from me, that’s fine, but stop pretending like your view is dictated from your (mis)interpretation of the “science.” Some people just get drunk off the power of telling people what they can and can’t do. The religious right wants to outlaw homosexuality; the the looney left wants to mandate COVID vaccinations. I personally prefer bourbon.
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Science is an impartial way to accumulate knowledge about the world and the universe. It cannot tell you what to do in the absence of objectives or values. Once you set objectives science can tell you how to (with uncertainty) best achieve those objectives. Sometimes the information that science produces might reveal a new way or alter way to achieve the objectives so we adjust actions mid stride.

What we really have is competing set of objectives, with one side having a sole objective of maximizing freedom and the other side having a primary objective of minimizing disease risk and death. One of the really confusing things is though, that each sides’ objectives are not consistent across issues. That is, the folks that are adamant about their freedom wrt vaccines and masks are not adamantly pushing to maximize freedom in all issues, like marajuana legalization. Likewise plenty of people pushing to minimize risk and death do not consistently hold those objectives in all issues, like marajuana legalization.
 
PhDeac said:
WakeBored, are you against all vaccine mandates or just COVID? Can you explain why?
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I am skeptical of all vaccine mandates because I don’t like the idea of the government dictating my medical treatment. For that reason, I think there has to be a strong justification to justify the government telling me I have to get a shot in my arm. With a vaccine like measles, for example—a one-time shot that is highly effective for life, with a known (and limited) side-effect profile—the individual and communal benefit is sufficient to overcome my skepticism.

The current COVID vaccines just aren’t good enough relative to the risks of the disease for me to arrive at the same conclusion, nor do I think we have sufficient long-term data on the side effects from these vaccines. I personally believe in vaccines—I’m vaxed and boosted and I got my annual flu vax in the fall—and I’m comfortable with the risk/reward analysis for myself, but I don’t believe in imposing my personal risk assessment on others in an uncertain world, particularly for people who have had COVID. We aren’t achieving herd immunity with our current vaccines, so what are we accomplishing with mandates? Pissing off most of the people who didn’t get the vaccine voluntarily to save a small percentage of them from themselves? I just don’t think it’s worth it. If people want to take their chances they should be allowed to make that choice.
 
WakeBored said:
I am skeptical of all vaccine mandates because I don’t like the idea of the government dictating my medical treatment. For that reason, I think there has to be a strong justification to justify the government telling me I have to get a shot in my arm. With a vaccine like measles, for example—a one-time shot that is highly effective for life, with a known (and limited) side-effect profile—the individual and communal benefit is sufficient to overcome my skepticism.

The current COVID vaccines just aren’t good enough relative to the risks of the disease for me to arrive at the same conclusion, nor do I think we have sufficient long-term data on the side effects from these vaccines. I personally believe in vaccines—I’m vaxed and boosted and I got my annual flu vax in the fall—and I’m comfortable with the risk/reward analysis for myself, but I don’t believe in imposing my personal risk assessment on others in an uncertain world, particularly for people who have had COVID. We aren’t achieving herd immunity with our current vaccines, so what are we accomplishing with mandates? Pissing off most of the people who didn’t get the vaccine voluntarily to save a small percentage of them from themselves? I just don’t think it’s worth it. If people want to take their chances they should be allowed to make that choice.
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We know the vax makes you 10x safer than being unvaxxed and the hospitals are overwhelmed which affects all of us. The rest of your argument doesn't trump this. A mandate will save lives.
 
stugotz said:
We know the vax makes you 10x safer than being unvaxxed and the hospitals are overwhelmed which affects all of us. The rest of your argument doesn't trump this. A mandate will save lives.
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Keep in mind people like WakeBored don’t believe people have a right to health care. So public health policies that reduce the burden on hospitals don’t matter to them.
 
Oh, he might say everbody has a right to (purchase) healthcare…but the gub’mint shouldn’t oughta mandate that everbody gits it.
 
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