No problem! I was going nuts last night.
And I say this knowing everyone might not follow through with it...but I still haven't seen Thor: Love and Thunder...I'm planning on going to a matinee this week. IF POSSIBLE if you guys can discuss the new reveals without mentioning major spoilers from Thor 4, that would be cool....but I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND if not possible. Just throwing it out there...maybe use Spoiler tags? Even though I know spoiler time has passed a while back...I've done well in skipping spoilers so far. But again, no worries if you need to mention something from Thor 4 to discuss the following info.
At first it really didn't seem like there was anything new, just a new title for Agatha, info on Guardians 3, small news from Ant-Man at 9:00pm when the panel was supposed to end, with the expected Wakanda Forever supposedly coming on a little late.
Then they dropped the Fantastic Four date, everyone flipped, then the image of Phase Six dates, which they then filled in with Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, everyone double flipped, and then the HUGE reveal (which I think everyone expected was coming up in the future, but the immediacy and actual date really surprising people) of Avengers: Secret Wars....then to end it all, the Wakanda Forever panel, with emotional talk of Chadwick's passing and how this film not only uses that reverence, respect, and love for him to influence their performances, but also brings out their passion, and then the teaser/trailer drop.
So Phase Five will end with THUNDERBOLTS, which seems like it will be an Avengers-like villain team-up movie. And with Captain America: New World Order it seems like Anthony Mackie's Captain America could be integral to both.
Not only do we get Fantastic/ Four in 2 years, but within a year of that we get not ONE, but TWO Avengers films, both of which are 6 months apart!?!?
Marvel's going to be raking in the dough in 2024-25. There's perhaps even another 1 or 2 films in the Phase Six lineup, which I thought would be obvious, but it's crazy to think they'd pack even more films into that 1 year window. Do we think all of the other Phase Six dates are Disney+ shows? That too would be a lot of Disney+ shows to fill in 1 year. So it's probably going to be a mix of films/shows. Marvel could be looking at $8-$10 Billion in 2024-25, with Fantastic Four and the Avengers movies approaching, or probably surpassing, $1.5-$2Billion each. I figure F4 will be $2B+, same with Secret Wars, and depending on the run-up to the Phase Six stuff, Kang Dynasty could top it as well.
So Fantastic Four will bring in Doom, who based on its proximity, will be the one who brings about Secret Wars as opposed to The Beyonder version (maybe?).
What else do we think could show up in Phase Six?
Even though they've got dates set for both Avengers movies in 2025, I have a feeling one or both will be delayed...no way they can fit a whole Phase in 1 year....or can they? I think they just wanted to get those titles out in the air, but didn't want to dull the effect on fans or shareholders by putting them 4 years away in 2026 or later.
If they DO delay one or both Avengers movies, gotta think potential Phase Six films are Dr Strange 3, Black Panther 3 due to his importance in the first incursion storyline, apparently Shang-Chi & The Wreckage of Time (see below), and I WOULD HOPE, an X-Men/Mutants/Deadpool film...plus maybe some of the following titles:
Marvel applied for some trademarks recently, which may be films, shows, or comics titles:
- Nomad
- Shang-Chi & The Wreckage of Time
- Black Knight: Origins
- Eternity Wars
- Midnight Suns
- Avengers Academy
- Celestials: End of Time
Also, potentially a Midnight Sons/Suns film or show with the potential addition of Punisher in Daredevil: Born Again, with Moon Knight, Blade, maybe a new Ghost Rider, Dr. Strange, etc.
Per Wikipedia, info on the comics versions that could impact the films or shows:
A different incarnation of the team was featured in Marvel Zombies 3 and in Marvel Zombies 4, debuting in 2008 and 2009 respectively.
In February 2017, Moon Knight artist Greg Smallwood expressed interest in a revamped version of the Midnight Sons, featuring a team composed of Moon Knight, Blade, Ghost Rider, Doctor Strange, Punisher, Daimon Hellstrom, Jennifer Kale and Hannibal King.
In June 2022 a new limited series was announced for a September 2022 release entitled Midnight Suns. The series will be written by Ethan Sacks with art by Luigi Zagaria. The roster will be made up of Blade, Kushala the Spirit Rider, Magik, Wolverine, Nico Minoru and Zoe Laveau.
Ok, so now to Wakanda Forever
Who is in the Blank Panther suit at the end of the teaser? It features a lot of gold accents, even more than the Killmonger suit, so I'm not sure if it'd be him (who knows how they'd get him back in it)....the legs/calves seem very dainty/thin so I think it's Shuri, though she's pretty short, so not sure. Didn't seem large enough to be M'Baku. What's everyone else's thoughts?