• Welcome to OGBoards 10.0, keep in mind that we will be making LOTS of changes to smooth out the experience here and make it as close as possible functionally to the old software, but feel free to drop suggestions or requests in the Tech Support subforum!

Official US Soccer / World Cup '26 Thread (USA vs. Mexico 3/24 in Dallas)

Not to mention that Fox paid a bunch of money for this product. They need people to watch. Trashing your own product would not serve that goal, so if it’s plausible to say something nice and keep up interest, they will do it.
 
cville deac said:
Is it just me, or are the announcers and studio folks going out of their way to be pro Qatar? And they're talking about the great atmosphere when it's not loud, and there's a number of empty seats.
Click to expand...
lol
 
DeacdeTejas said:
What? If we draw England all we have to do is beat Iran to get through. That game is not meaningless at all
Click to expand...
That's likely the case even if we lose to England Six nil unless Wales beats uk which is very highly unlikely
 
ChrisL68 said:
That's likely the case even if we lose to England Six nil unless Wales beats uk which is very highly unlikely
Click to expand...
Sure.

I for one really dont care to advance into the knockouts because we drew Wales, England, and Iran. The bottom line from the beginning was our best chance of advancing was beating Iran and getting points against either England or Wales (or both). That is still true and we dont deserve shit if we cant beat Iran
 
WFU03 said:
Not to mention that Fox paid a bunch of money for this product. They need people to watch. Trashing your own product would not serve that goal, so if it’s plausible to say something nice and keep up interest, they will do it.
Click to expand...
I saw that Telemundo has not held back in discussing the issues with Qatar.
 
BarcaDeac said:
I saw that Telemundo has not held back in discussing the issues with Qatar.
Click to expand...

If so, could come down to a difference in audience loyalty. Fox is trying to convince a lot of folks who only tune in once every four years to stick around.
 
WFU03 said:
If so, could come down to a difference in audience loyalty. Fox is trying to convince a lot of folks who only tune in once every four years to stick around.
Click to expand...

US English language announcers across sports tend to bullshit fans into believing bad teams are more competitive than they are. I don’t know if that’s the same for Spanish language announcers.
 
Last edited:
resting the guys on yellow is probably the right move, but it's kinda lame

a win over england -- however improbable -- sets you up to only need a tie instead of a win vs. Iran and in good shape to win the group and likely avoid Netherlands

who are you starting today assuming none of the yellows play? CCV, Aaronson, and I'd like to see Scally get a shot over Yedlin
 
A win over England in the most hyped USMNT match since making the knockout round would be huge for the sport in the US in general. But it’s not worth risking losing players for Iran.
 
The Ecuador kits are nice. Clean and simple.
 
doing rough math:

we have a 55% chance of beating iran. wales has a 15% chance of beating england. based on the implied odds of todays game, we probably have at least a 2/3 chance of winning the differential tiebreak. so would basically say we have a ~5% of not advancing with a win over iran that would go away with a draw today. not getting blown out has about the same impact. but at the end of the day, roughly 50%.

we also have a ~15% of beating england, which opens up some other weird things, but we are estimated at about 78% to at least draw vs iran. if we lose, we’d probably need wales to beat england (15%, so about 3% total probability).

so if i’m doing the math right, beating england makes up about 1/4 of all the different paths we could take to qualify (because there is about a 50% we either don’t beat iran or lose via tiebreaker to wales). which based on vegas moneylines, is about 65%.

eta: i now realize this is a horribly written post, but it was fun for me damnit.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
resting the guys on yellow is probably the right move, but it's kinda lame

a win over england -- however improbable -- sets you up to only need a tie instead of a win vs. Iran and in good shape to win the group and likely avoid Netherlands

who are you starting today assuming none of the yellows play? CCV, Aaronson, and I'd like to see Scally get a shot over Yedlin
Click to expand...
Yeah I dont love it but I also think we have to approach the Iran match 100%. CCV and Scally you could argue is a better fit against England too. Aaronson or Reyna for McKennie.
 
IAppreciateIt said:
doing rough math:

we have a 55% chance of beating iran. wales has a 15% chance of beating england. based on the implied odds of todays game, we probably have at least a 2/3 chance of winning the differential tiebreak. so would basically say we have a ~5% of not advancing with a win over iran that would go away with a draw today. not getting blown out has about the same impact. but at the end of the day, roughly 50%.

we also have a ~15% of beating england, which opens up some other weird things, but we are estimated at about 78% to at least draw vs iran. if we lose, we’d probably need wales to beat england (15%, so about 3% total probability).

so if i’m doing the math right, beating england makes up about 1/4 of all the different paths we could take to qualify (because there is about a 50% we either don’t beat iran or lose via tiebreaker to wales). which based on vegas moneylines, is about 65%.

eta: i now realize this is a horribly written post, but it was fun for me damnit.
Click to expand...

aight.

if we beat england (15%), we have an 81% chance to advance. 12% chance of this happening.

if we don’t beat england but beat iran (85% x 55% = 47%), we have a 100% chance to advance with a draw vs england (23%) or ~90% with a loss (60%). so on aggregate, 42% of this happening.

if we don’t win either, 0% of advancing. 85% x 45% = 38%

so actually a 54% of advancing. and the remaining 8% is winning a match and still not advancing.

eta: this was all wrong
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top