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F is for Fascism (Ferguson MO)

DeacHead said:
It's been a while (like 15 years ago when I was dealing with it) but it was possible to collect full, unreduced benefits at 45 and that benefit was very close to your average salary. I wish I could remember more details but brain's getting older, not wiser.
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3am diaper changing does that to a man.
 
He wants 50k? Aim high dude. That pos sherif needs some real consequences in his life.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Our culture and our justice system encourages this level of malevolence. Every fucking cop, criminal prosecutor, judge in America wakes up in the morning thinking they are Colonel Jessup from A Few Good Men. Liberals support them with votes and tax dollars, Republicans support them with bumper stickers, rallies, Facebook posts.

The way that we define crime and policing is what’s driving these problems - we interpret crime as individual moral failures and we lionize police as protecting us from criminals. These interpretations prevent us from addressing societies role in crime, and from holding the justice system to account.
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Man I really think this is the truth. But if we focus on societal I’ll, and turn away from “crime” horrific shit also happens, maybe at a larger level to marginalized communities.

So it’s like what the fuck can we do? But it sure as fuck isn’t this.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Man I really think this is the truth. But if we focus on societal I’ll, and turn away from “crime” horrific shit also happens, maybe at a larger level to marginalized communities.

So it’s like what the fuck can we do? But it sure as fuck isn’t this.
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Curious what you mean here?
 
End point, the fundamental structure of policing is so fucked up, nobody can be within the system and not be fucked. End rant
 
the absence of policing doesn’t mean not caring about preventing harm. There are tons of people writing about and theorizing alternatives to policing.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
The way we police doesn’t work, not even close. The consequences of not policing are also grim, so what’s the answer?
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Probably not worrying about it too much cause the number of deaths per year by cop is equal to the number of deaths per day by tobacco, so relatively speaking it’s prolly not worth getting as worked up as we do about it.

We seemingly have video tape of every interaction now which seems to be a good start, is a huge upgrade from where we were decades ago, and surely this will affect cops behavior going forward. You can see it just in the change from George floyd to this incident, where in the Floyd case it took forever to charge the cops, and here all of em were charged with murder in 2 days. So change has already happened.
 
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MHBDemon said:
the absence of policing doesn’t mean not caring about preventing harm. There are tons of people writing about and theorizing alternatives to policing.
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What are some alternatives you support?
 
dartsndeacs said:
Probably not worrying about it too much cause the number of deaths per year by cop is equal to the number of deaths per day by tobacco, so relatively speaking it’s prolly not worth getting as worked up as we do about it.

We seemingly have video tape of every interaction now which seems to be a good start, is a huge upgrade from where we were decades ago, and surely this will affect cops behavior going forward. You can see it just in the change from George floyd to this incident, where in the Floyd case it took forever to charge the cops, and here all of em were charged with murder in 2 days. So change has already happened.
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Not enough because of takes like this.

Your first paragraph is... nauseating.

The second is naive at best.
 
The charges came so quickly because it's a majority Black city with Black leadership including the police chief and the cops were Black. No way it's that quick otherwise.
 
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