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Wake Forest 2023 baseball season thread (Deacs end historic season with extra inning loss to LSU: Final record 54-12 and top 4 finish nationally)

deacon14 said:
Anyone complaining about the sacrifice bunt should NOT watch the end of Coach Walter’s press conference.



Spoiler: The plan was for Corona to bunt in the 8th if JJ had gotten on base
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I get the small ball approach. I just do not get it with the players he chooses to do it with

That being said Wake is in final four and with a win, playing for a championship
 
WindyCityDeac said:
The data says sac bunting is a bad idea. It’s that simple. Are there very specific times when it’s valid to do? Sure. But sac bunting is a losing strategy
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This is undoubtedly true at the MLB level. Run expectancy charts prove the out (or not making an out) is more valuable than a base. You decrease run expectancy by adding an out and gaining a base. I'm not aware of run expectancy data that is available at the college level, but it is a higher run scoring environment, so bunting is even more of a bad idea.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
just go back and look at florida's path:

Florida A&M (WITHOUT the band or even halftime)
uconn (do they even play baseball?)
texas tech (neither the best texas or tech team)
south carolina (lol)
virginia (mr. jefferson couldn't hit a curve ball if his life depended on it (actually the only real challenge that they had with a week to prepare for))
oral roberts (like liberty without the financial resources)
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Right. Also that side of the bracket had a bunch of seeded teams shit the bed. Ours did not
 
There's also a non-zero chance that Hawke WAS trying to bunt for a hit over the 3rd baseman's head and just popped it up too much. Not likely, but still a small possibility.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
do you think that @Deacfreak07 actually legitimately thinks that Marek Houston is as good as the presumptive #1 overall pick? Or do you think he was just having fun and talking some shit?
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I think when we get Houston in the HITTING LAB, his other tools are that good.

But yes, I was mostly just talking my shit about god's gift to baseball, dylan crews.

He's still in for a very rude awakening when he gets out of the safe confines of that cupcake sec schedule.
 
The only thing I heard from the announcers all night, keep in mind the ESPN main web site was all LSU stories/links during our game, that was actually accurate was:

"Wake Forest showed a lot of grit."

Hartle recovering from that LF Cecere gaffe, was enormous. I am not sure Cecere lost it in ths sun as much as he just ran up on it, and misplayed it completely as it carried.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
There's also a non-zero chance that Hawke WAS trying to bunt for a hit over the 3rd baseman's head and just popped it up too much. Not likely, but still a small possibility.
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Buddy and I were talking about this. I think that's exactly what he should have done. Fake the bunt and just slap one in White's general direction. Very likely he gets a hit with decent contact, as far in as he was playing/as hard as he was charging.
 
I'm fine with the bunt call there, but not with a guy who has clearly never bunted in his life - my middle school team kids bunt better than that. Don't call it if you clearly haven't practiced it. He wasn't even holding the bat properly. When he "squared" around the first time, my 13 year old turned and said Tommy has obviously never bunted before. The squares were awful, his hands were all wrong, he had the bat in the wrong spot (which is why he eventually popped it up) and the ump actually gave him the benefit of a ball when he tried to pull back but didn't. Once he botched the first attempt I would have waved it off. He was never going to get it down right other than pure luck or the pitcher pitching to the bat to get it.
 
tigerswood said:
Buddy and I were talking about this. I think that's exactly what he should have done. Fake the bunt and just slap one in White's general direction. Very likely he gets a hit with decent contact, as far in as he was playing/as hard as he was charging.
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I don't know the NCAA rules, but you definitely cannot slash at lower levels because of the safety concern.
 
deacdixieboy said:
I actually use Black Buffalo which has a no nicotine, no tobacco product. You would never know the difference. Great product that helped me kick that disgusting habit.
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Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff for me. I use to do coffee pouches but then if I used them in the afternoon I would be up all night.
 
KidA23 said:
1. I just randomly stumbled across a CBS mock draft and holy smokes, LSU is projected to have the top 2 picks in Crews and Skenes. I mean I knew LSU was loaded, but I honestly had no idea they were that loaded.

2. Sorry, but the sac bunt was kinda indefensible. We have, like, decades of data on this by now. In the absolute best case scenario, you’re essentially trading an out for a base. That…is generally not a good trade. And again, that’s if it works.
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Yeah, the only time I’m ok with it is to move a player from 2nd to 3rd with no outs when tied or down 1 to set up a sac fly, or is a player has a history of hitting into double plays.

But we won, so 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Also did their first baseman mimic a drive by shooting after his double late in the game?
 
saltydeac said:
Not a fan of this approach as then whole rotation is off for championship if u make it. I think Walter takes the same approach as he was planning for supers where he starts either Keener or Sully depending on whom they think matches up best with the opponent and then if down or close he saves the other for deciding game and uses Reed/bullpen instead but if get a nice lead he brings in the other to close it out. If got down to elim game on Thursday could see Rhett and Hartle maybe throw an inning as think that would be ok before a start on Sat and Sun.
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I meant Lowder and Hartle in the championship.
TripleDeac21 said:
I mean he shouldn’t be. Its illegal. Even in the locker room.
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Wait. Tobacco is ILLEGAL?
 
deac29 said:
This is undoubtedly true at the MLB level. Run expectancy charts prove the out (or not making an out) is more valuable than a base. You decrease run expectancy by adding an out and gaining a base. I'm not aware of run expectancy data that is available at the college level, but it is a higher run scoring environment, so bunting is even more of a bad idea.
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Expected Runs Tables for NCAA Division I

www.boydsworld.com

Here is 2023 run expectancy table. Offense is up, so bunting is an even worse idea than usual.
 
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