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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

morrison2951 said:
Should the ACC still let nd park all its other teams here if there's no chance to get them all-in for football??

Maybe it's time to show them the door.
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The 3 or 4 football games that ND plays at the home fields of ACC opponents are highly valued by those opponents, because they fill the ACC stadiums at premium prices. They also draw big TV ratings, which is good for the ACC. There is also supposedly an agreement that if ND were to join a conference, then it would join the ACC. Allowing ND to participate in other ACC sports doesn't cost the conference anything and it provides more scheduling opportunities for everyone. So it's not as good as having them as a full member but the current arrangement is a mutually beneficial relationship.
 
CaptRenault said:
The 3 or 4 football games that ND plays at the home fields of ACC opponents are highly valued by those opponents, because they fill the ACC stadiums at premium prices. They also draw big TV ratings, which is good for the ACC. There is also supposedly an agreement that if ND were to join a conference, then it would join the ACC. Allowing ND to participate in other ACC sports doesn't cost the conference anything and it provides more scheduling opportunities for everyone. So it's not as good as having them as a full member but the current arrangement is a mutually beneficial relationship.
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Sure. Friends with benefits. Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

First formal mention of a Pac-12 merger with the Mountain West.

While discussing a timetable, Barnes noted the program will “move expeditiously” but stressed it will take some time. According to Yahoo Sports’ Ross Dellenger, a possible move for the remaining four Pac-12 schools could be a “merger or partnership with the Mountain West.”
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A merger under the Pac-whatever name could be a 16 team power conference. This would be the count for football in 2 or 3 years compared to the 2013 season when Cuse and Pitt joined the ACC and the Big East ended as a football conference.

ACC: 14 (14)
SEC: 16 (14)
Big Ten: 18 (12)
Big XII: 16 (10)
Pac-??: 16 (12)

That's 18 new P5 teams in 12 years.
 
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Mt Airy is the armpit I left every weekend for 30 years while city professionals visited Bed and Breakfasts, a winery and Andy Griffith stuff. I still can’t figure the tourist attraction of the town.
 
wfu22fan said:
Mt Airy is the armpit I left every weekend for 30 years while city professionals visited Bed and Breakfasts, a winery and Andy Griffith stuff. I still can’t figure the tourist attraction of the town.
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Mt. Airy would be an ideal small town to live in imo.. Close to mountains and state parks. Stone mountain State Park is awesome. You also have "the wine country" of NC close by at Elkin, NC. Temperatures are cooler that part of the state without being boone level cold in the winter and plenty of little shops and restaurants that the women folk love.
 
CaptRenault said:
Here are the only numbers that really matter:



Another college football regular season is in the books, so we have another year’s worth of TV viewership data to dig into.
Below, I’ve listed each school’s average game viewership for the regular season. And below that, I’ve listed every game that garnered at least 4 million viewers — a benchmark number in the eyes of TV networks.
As you peruse these lists, remember that TV viewership can be influenced by a whole bunch of factors, including game time, channel, competitiveness, and what other games are going on at the same time. Outliers can also sway averages, especially in a small sample size like this one.
Ranking the most-watched college football programs in 2022
The numbers next to each school indicate the average number of viewers per week for a 12-week season.
Streaming numbers are included when available. Games that do not have available data are counted as zero.
Ohio State — 5.80M
Alabama — 5.11M
Michigan — 4.37M
Tennessee — 4.13M
Georgia — 3.50M
Notre Dame — 3.30M
LSU — 3.22M
Texas — 3.06M
Penn State — 3.05M
Clemson — 2.59M
Florida — 2.57M
Oregon — 2.21M
TCU — 2.20M
Southern Cal — 2.07M
Florida State — 2.03M
Nebraska — 1.98M
Michigan State — 1.91M
Texas A&M — 1.87M
Maryland — 1.864M
Auburn — 1.863M
Arkansas — 1.80M
Mississippi — 1.753M
Oklahoma — 1.748M
Oklahoma State — 1.68M
UCLA — 1.591M
Wisconsin — 1.587M
Iowa — 1.50M
Kentucky — 1.35M
Baylor — 1.32M
Kansas State — 1.23M
Indiana — 1.19M
Illinois — 1.17M
Utah — 1.16M
Washington — 1.15M
Northwestern — 1.13M
Mississippi State — 1.10M
Minnesota — 1.05M
BYU — 997K
South Carolina — 990K
Navy — 976K
Washington State — 907K
Iowa State — 882K
NC State — 881K
Purdue -870K
California — 857K
North Carolina — 849K
Stanford — 846K
Syracuse — 841K
Georgia Tech — 837K
Missouri — 793K
West Virginia — 774K
Kansas — 732K
Army — 681K
Texas Tech — 680K
Cincinnati — 653K
Pittsburgh — 650K
Oregon State — 625K
Rutgers — 618K
Miami FL— 608K
Wake Forest — 523K
UCF — 510K
Arizona — 506K
Louisville — 496K
Colorado State — 386K
Tulane — 354K
Boise State — 353K
Colorado — 352.9K
Air Force — 326K
Utah State — 324K
Boston College — 322K
Arizona State — 314K
SMU — 312K
Toledo — 306K
East Carolina — 305K
Appalachian State — 298K
Virginia Tech — 264K
Marshall — 262K
Houston — 242K
Virginia — 237K
Fresno State — 220K
Ohio — 214K
Connecticut — 212K
San Diego State — 198K
Western Michigan — 174K
Memphis — 165K
Tulsa — 162K
Wyoming — 154K
Central Michigan — 130K
Georgia Southern — 125K
Nevada — 116.4K
Duke — 115.7K
UTEP — 102K
Temple — 92K
New Mexico State — 86K
South Florida — 80.8K
Coastal Carolina — 80.6K
Louisiana — 78K
UAB — 71K
Arkansas State — 69K
Buffalo — 67K
Bowling Green — 63K
Ball State — 61K
Kent State — 60K
Georgia State — 55K
San Jose State — 53K
Miami OH — 49K
Northern Illinois — 46K
Hawaii — 43K
Eastern Michigan — 33K
Akron — 31K
Old Dominion — 28K
Texas State — 18.4K
New Mexico — 17.5K
Southern Miss — 16K
Charlotte 14.8K
Western Kentucky — 13.8K
Florida Atlantic — 12K
Louisiana Tech — 10K
James Madison — 9K
The 2022 “4 million club”
Here are all of the games that broke 4 million viewers this season:
Michigan at Ohio State — 17.14M
Tennessee at Georgia — 13.06M
Alabama at Tennessee — 11.56M
Alabama at Texas — 10.60M
Notre Dame vs. Ohio State — 10.53M
Alabama at Mississippi — 8.71M
Ohio State at Penn State — 8.27M
Alabama at LSU — 7.58M
Florida State vs. LSU — 7.55M
Texas A&M at Alabama — 7.15M
Army vs. Navy — 6.94M
Florida at Florida State — 6.71M
Notre Dame at Southern Cal, 6.68M
Ohio State at Maryland — 6.60M
Penn State at Michigan — 6.45M
Auburn at Alabama — 6.27M
Oregon vs. Georgia — 6.20M
Alabama at Arkansas — 5.83M
Florida at Georgia — 5.62M
Michigan State at Michigan — 5.58M
Florida at Tennessee — 5.57M
Illinois at Michigan — 5.47M
TCU at Texas — 5.03M
NC State at Clemson — 4.98M
Tennessee at South Carolina — 4.87M
Clemson at Georgia Tech — 4.86M
Ohio State at Northwestern — 4.76M
Syracuse at Clemson — 4.75M
Wisconsin at Ohio State — 4.59M
Southern Cal at UCLA — 4.53M
Georgia at Kentucky — 4.48M
Tennessee at Pittsburgh — 4.46M
Texas at Oklahoma State — 4.46M
Ohio State at Michigan State — 4.44M
Nebraska vs. Northwestern — 4.42M
Maryland at Michigan — 4.38M
Iowa at Ohio State — 4.38M
TCU at Baylor — 4.35M
Iowa State at TCU — 4.34M
Kentucky at Florida — 4.33M
Auburn at Georgia — 4.24M
Michigan at Iowa — 4.20M
Penn State at Auburn — 4.05M
Kentucky at Tennessee — 4.04M
Michigan at Indiana — 4.01M
There were 39 teams that played in at least one game that cracked 4 million viewers:
8 — Ohio State
7 — Alabama, Michigan
6 — Tennessee
5 — Georgia
4 — Florida
3 — Auburn, Clemson, Kentucky, Penn State, TCU, Texas
2 — Florida State, Iowa, LSU, Maryland, Michigan State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Southern Cal
1 — Arkansas, Army, Baylor, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa State, Mississippi, Navy, NC State, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Pittsburgh, South Carolina, Syracuse, Texas A&M, UCLA, Wisconsin
Looking for data from previous years? Here is 2021, and here is 2015–19.
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This list should be our guide to scheduling OOC.
 
Tobacco Road said:
This list should be our guide to scheduling OOC.
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Wake has three of the top 15 in 2023 - Notre Dame, Clemson and FSU.

Too bad top 20 Maryland isn't regularly on the schedule anymore. Lots of eyeballs in DC/Baltimore area.

ETA: stop scheduling NCState and u*NC because they are not top 40? Keep playing Navy because they are?
 
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