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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

DeacKillsaDevil said:
Maybe but I didn't go back 3,000 posts to find it. I doubt the ACCN games change this very much especially considering ACCN was not on Cox for several years.

Were Pac12N games included?
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Wake “average” of 500k is based on 3 games with 6 million viewers and 9 games of unknowns which are counted as zeros
 
morrison2951 said:
nd or nothing.

So, I guess nothing.

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man you know SMU and its rich asshole Texan boosters was primed for an eventual Big 12 or SEC invite but then they're gonna settle for free ACC membership
 
OldGoldBeard said:
Who cares? We need to put ourselves in a position where, if worse comes to worst and our biggest brands leave, we end up like the Big XII instead of the PAC 12. Adding mid-market schools while they're still there to add is the best, perhaps only, way to do that. Would you rather be Iowa State or Wazzu right now?
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Yea, this. We should add these 3 schools if we can. Don’t overthink it. Wake needs to be in one of the “big” conferences when the music stops. These are name schools. Adding these schools increases the chances that Wake will still be in a big-boy conference even were FSU and Clemson to leave. Wake needs a big conference much more than the other way around.
 
All of this expansion and takeovers and zero geographic consolidation really pisses me off. But it is our reality. ACC, please grab anyone you can. Take the Pac 4. Take SMU. Take Tulane. Take Memphis. Take UCONN. Take USF. I don’t really GAF. Just show the rest of the leagues you belong at the table
 
KidA23 said:
Yea, this. We should add these 3 schools if we can. Don’t overthink it. Wake needs to be in one of the “big” conferences when the music stops. These are name schools. Adding these schools increases the chances that Wake will still be in a big-boy conference even were FSU and Clemson to leave. Wake needs a big conference much more than the other way around.
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Agreed. As I've said before, I'm for whatever keeps Wake's seat at the adult table.
 
IamThunderbolt said:
And Tier 1 is generally considered the T14. Wake has a very good law school, but it’s not an elite law school. It’s near the top of the second tier (which doesn’t mean second rate).
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I just read that about the top 14, but US News designates law schools 51-100 to be second tier and third tier to be 100-150. #22 obviously isn’t close to being second tier.
 
Imagine being a Maryland fan; you had nothing to do with your incompetent athletic department getting into massive debt, but that debt transforms and defines your fandom experience for the rest of your life.
 
Conflicted on SMU. They have more money than they can spend but I don't think it does much for viewership to add the 7th best Texas school. It's like adding BC to get Boston, but maybe worse.

From SMU's perspective, they are absolutely desperate to get in anywhere. Hated rival TCU hired their coach and then made the Natty in year 1. That's gotta hurt.
 
JamesSokolove said:
Bet the mods are now regretting approving the condition that RJ could return if the ACC ever expanded into California.
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RJ is like that crazy hot ex, couldn't stand her when you were with her but the sex was so good you stayed longer than you should have. But now it's been some time and you've forgotten all about the crazy and kinda miss her.
 
Just one question: If football is the only thing that matters on an athletic department’s spreadsheets, as these hyperkinetic, soul-less creatures in suits have affirmed with their actions, why drag the rest of college athletics down with it?

There has been speculation in recent years that the major-college football programs — let’s just say some-60 teams from the remains of the Power 5 — would be best served by breaking away from the NCAA. There was a time I considered the idea absurd. That was probably the final surviving tradition cell in my brain speaking for me. But that sucker is dead now. It has been run over so many times, it resembles what a UCLA volleyball player will look like after four connecting flights on a Rutgers road trip.

College football: Leave the nest now before you kill everybody else. One athletic director told me that West Coast schools will need to factor an extra $10 million in travel expenses into their annual budgets for non-football teams. That’s before even taking into account the physical and mental toll of added miles and time during the season, fewer chances to play in front of family and friends — a major attraction for athletes in all sports, not just non-revenue — the inability for other fans to travel long distances to watch their team and possibly a ripple effect on academics.

Actually, forget about academics. That hasn’t mattered for a while.

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College football: Just go. Let basketball, softball, baseball, tennis, soccer, volleyball, swimming and the rest stay behind in conferences that make geographical and economic sense, in a world that hasn’t been soiled by greed.

No school or conference powerbroker who made conference realignment decisions really thought this through for all sports. Because if he or she did, I would love to hear the explanation of why they believe this is a good thing.

Crickets.
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theathletic.com

It's time for college football to leave conferences and let other sports make sense

Why should football drag the rest of college athletics down with it? Fans will watch and buy tickets, regardless, and systems are in place.
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We would be much better off college football separated from other sports many years ago.
 
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