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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

I was bringing up schools to the weirdos malding at the B10 in football and basketball when its not like Wake would be a world beater in that conference. It's a convo for the Clemson football or Duke basketball fans fine but lets focus on trying to get back to March Madness and keeping football respectable instead of whinging about another conference lol
People are whining about another conference because the actions of those conferences is going to kill the ACC. Not sure why that’s confusing to you.

And yeah, Wake Forest football is capable of being a middle of the pack team in the B10. Considering they’ve been somewhere between the top and middle of the ACC for the last 5 years pretty consistently, that isn’t an absurd take.

But again, none of that matters. Wake Forest won’t ever get a chance to prove that they could compete in the B10 or the SEC because the school is too small.
 
I was bringing up schools to the weirdos malding at the B10 in football and basketball when its not like Wake would be a world beater in that conference. It's a convo for the Clemson football or Duke basketball fans fine but lets focus on trying to get back to March Madness and keeping football respectable instead of whinging about another conference lol
the big 10 fucking sucks at sports. Other than Ohio State football winning every 20 years, they literally never win the championship in any major sport. it's a fact, one that fans of Wake, UNC Charlotte, Elon or Lenoir-Rhyne can point out
 
the big 10 fucking sucks at sports. Other than Ohio State football winning every 20 years, they literally never win the championship in any major sport. it's a fact, one that fans of Wake, UNC Charlotte, Elon or Lenoir-Rhyne can point out
not sure you know the meaning of Literally, never and fact
 
the big 10 fucking sucks at sports. Other than Ohio State football winning every 20 years, they literally never win the championship in any major sport. it's a fact, one that fans of Wake, UNC Charlotte, Elon or Lenoir-Rhyne can point out
But their universities are large, have huge alumni bases, and in many instances are the marquee sports brands (pro or college) in their states. All of that generates eyeballs, which is what Fox cares about. Winning has notlhng to do with it. Amassing viewership for live sports is an area in which the Big 10 excels.
 
the big 10 fucking sucks at sports. Other than Ohio State football winning every 20 years, they literally never win the championship in any major sport. it's a fact, one that fans of Wake, UNC Charlotte, Elon or Lenoir-Rhyne can point out
Counterpoint, Winslow touched it
 
But their universities are large, have huge alumni bases, and in many instances are the marquee sports brands (pro or college) in their states. All of that generates eyeballs, which is what Fox cares about. Winning has notlhng to do with it. Amassing viewership for live sports is an area in which the Big 10 excels.
Not to mention you cant say theyre trash at sports, when they have many good football programs. Its just the SEC is so much better than everyone else. I never said they were the best football conference, but if you take em top to bottom and look at the last 5/10 years its a consistent good number 2 to the SEC. Academically, they also have chad level research endowments. If you judge the conference including the new additions even moreso in all categories
 
not sure you know the meaning of Literally, never and fact
yes, you caught me, I was slightly exaggerating. Big 10 wins about as much as the big south over the past 20 years.

and yes, I know that money and viewers is what drives this. which I hate and is stupid. So I will continue to point out that the Big 10 never wins shit

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Wisconsin is a unique program as they get everyone they want from in-state and because so many of those guys don't even get recruited hard by other programs (since they aren't leaving the state); their recruiting classes are rated lower than the results on the field as Wisconsin keeps producing NFL lineman, DL and LBs; many of them are walk-ons or two stars -- like the entire Watt family.

Not surprisingly, the weakness of the Wisconsin program has been generally at WR and DB as the state doesn't produce as many standouts at those spots, and if you are an out of state WR, why would you pick Wisconsin? Always thought that WF and Wisconsin could orchestrate a perfect roster if they could make trades as WF's strengths and are Wisconsin's weaknesses as vice versa.

An air raid offense at Wisconsin is going to be a radical change; think it will take time to work out the kinks. Wisconsin is the perfect example of the flawed Big 10. They are the prohibitive favorite in the Big 10 West this year even though they are transitioning to a new system with a new QB, new HC, new OC and DC. It's not because Wisconsin is stacked; it's because literally every other program in the Big 10 West is a mess, personnel-wise and with plenty of scandals (Northwestern, Minnesota, NW).
 
yes, you caught me, I was slightly exaggerating. Big 10 wins about as much as the big south over the past 20 years.

and yes, I know that money and viewers is what drives this. which I hate and is stupid. So I will continue to point out that the Big 10 never wins shit

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If youre gonna include NCAAW might as well include college baseball and hockey
 
If youre gonna include NCAAW might as well include college baseball and hockey
what do you think CBB is?

and No, I shouldn't. 330+ schools compete in NCAA women's basketball. 60 compete in hockey.
 
what do you think CBB is?

and No, I shouldn't. 330+ schools compete in NCAA women's basketball. 60 compete in hockey.
Im just saying you said "major sports" like people genuinely get their blood pumping and beat their chests over NCAAW, hell I've seen more people get excited for Womens Volleyball than NCAAW
 
Im just saying you said "major sports" like people genuinely get their blood pumping and beat their chests over NCAAW, hell I've seen more people get excited for Womens Volleyball than NCAAW
The women's final four this year averaged almost 7 million TV viewers. Many schools (including your favorite, the big 10, draw massive crowds for WBB). Is college hockey even on TV?
 
The women's final four this year averaged almost 7 million TV viewers. Many schools (including your favorite, the big 10, draw massive crowds for WBB). Is college hockey even on TV?
Yea and its fucking sick its not my fault you havent experienced the joy of college hockey
 
Yea and its fucking sick its not my fault you havent experienced the joy of college hockey
well, congrats, then. the women's final four was fucking sick this year. but unless you're a quinnipiac or st cloud state fan don't see how anyone could care about hockey
 
yes, you caught me, I was slightly exaggerating. Big 10 wins about as much as the big south over the past 20 years.

and yes, I know that money and viewers is what drives this. which I hate and is stupid. So I will continue to point out that the Big 10 never wins shit

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so they rarely win over the last 20 years
 
Seconded that college hockey is dope
I know its only club level, but what's the atmosphere at the Wake hockey games? Club hockey was a huge draw when introduced at Kentucky.

I asked Currie once when he was starting a varsity program. I was kidding, but he didn't miss a beat and said he would be happy to if I helped him come up with $30MM.
 
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