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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

CaptRenault said:
WFU undergrad enrollment by state (USA residents):

  1. North Carolina 885
  2. Florida 318
  3. New York 494
  4. New Jersey 368
  5. Georgia 247
  6. Maryland 244
  7. Mass. 239
  8. Va. 232
  9. Illinois 225
  10. Conn. 210
Of the 466 foreign undergrad students, 300 are from China.
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I just made a joke about Dook having a bunch of Jersey kids

What's the deal with the China connection? Does admin have some sort of recruiting program or are they just big fans of CP3 (joke)
Obviously, China will have a large population of foreign students at most top schools, but I believe this is the biggest I've seen anywhere I have visited or attended in terms of % of foreign student body
 
Biff Ochocinco Tannen said:
The has to be the stupidest post I have ever read.
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Why? My example is analogous to the exact line of reasoning you're using. I'm just using that example to illustrate the flaw in your statement, because it's a common argument people use. I'm obviously not calling you racist. I'm saying that you saying "State is a good school because I know some cool dudes who went there" is just as persuasive/convincing as the guy who says "I'm not racist because I have a black friend" (Or insert any other example where a person has a sample size of one and therefore makes a sweeping claim off of that). Which is to say, it's not persuasive/convincing at all.
 
LegalDeac26 said:
I just made a joke about Dook having a bunch of Jersey kids

What's the deal with the China connection? Does admin have some sort of recruiting program or are they just big fans of CP3 (joke)
Obviously, China will have a large population of foreign students at most top schools, but I believe this is the biggest I've seen anywhere I have visited or attended in terms of % of foreign student body
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It's not just a Wake thing. Chinese students are the largest cohort of international students across the board in the US. A big part of it is that the kids who are able to get into US schools are generally wealthy enough to pay full boat, and universities love that.
 
For Deac's Sake said:
Why? My example is analogous to the exact line of reasoning you're using. I'm just using that example to illustrate the flaw in your statement, because it's a common argument people use. I'm obviously not calling you racist. I'm saying that you saying "State is a good school because I know some cool dudes who went there" is just as persuasive/convincing as the guy who says "I'm not racist because I have a black friend" (Or insert any other example where a person has a sample size of one and therefore makes a sweeping claim off of that). Which is to say, it's not persuasive/convincing at all.
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Okay. I didn’t really think you were suggesting I was racist but I’m glad you cleared that up and stupid was a poor choice of words on my part. But it is not analogous. It would be analogous if I were trying to reflect that I don’t actually hate StateFans because I have a friend who went to State. State is objectively a good school, and one that has some great programs.

I said State is a good school and I know some cool dudes who went there. Those are two separate thoughts. Not a cause and effect of my believing State is a good school because I know some cool dudes who went there.

And either way, I’m not defending myself by saying State is a good school like someone would be defending themselves against an accusation of racism by invoking a black friend.
 
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For Deac's Sake said:
It's not just a Wake thing. Chinese students are the largest cohort of international students across the board in the US. A big part of it is that the kids who are able to get into US schools are generally wealthy enough to pay full boat, and universities love that.
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Right I said that in my post but I went back and checked my large, high rank undergrad and % it was lower, as well as a few comparable places. Wake is a smaller but still high ranked school so I just thought it was interesting. Theres also no Indian students here compared to other high rank schools.
 
LegalDeac26 said:
I believe this is the biggest I've seen anywhere I have visited or attended in terms of % of foreign student body
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It is an unusually large percentage from one country. It's somewhat misleading for Wake to brag about its international enrollment numbers when most of the students are from one country. Different schools follow different strategies...probably depending on how much they desire having some students who pay full tuition

At Harvard, 41 of 947 foreign undergrads are from China. The largest group, of 162, is from Canada.

At Vanderbilt 423 of 729 undergrad foreign students are from China.
 
DeacMan said:
That won’t last given current political and economic situations.
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The more unstable the economic/political situation becomes in China, the more rich Chinese want to establish a physical and financial foothold in the USA.
 
CaptRenault said:
The more unstable the economic/political situation becomes in China, the more rich Chinese want to establish a physical and financial foothold in the USA.
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Is it actually getting unstable? People have been calling for China downfall for like 40 years and its never been right tbf
 
Biff Ochocinco Tannen said:
Okay. I didn’t really think you were suggesting I was racist but I’m glad you cleared that up and stupid was a poor choice of words on my part. But it is not analogous. It would be analogous if I were trying to reflect that I don’t actually hate StateFans because I have a friend who went to State. State is objectively a good school, and one that has some great programs.

I said State is a good school and I know some cool dudes who went there. Those are two separate thoughts. Not a cause and effect of my believing State is a good school because I know some cool dudes who went there.

And either way, I’m not defending myself by saying State is a good school like someone would be defending themselves against an accusation of racism by invoking a black friend.
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Fair. I was reading too quickly and missed the separation of thoughts, it's not analogous. I'll own that one.
 
LegalDeac26 said:
Is it actually getting unstable? People have been calling for China downfall for like 40 years and its never been right tbf
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Foreign investment has been drying up in the wake of a more authoritative government

The housing market is collapsing as we speak - 90 percent of Chinese own their home/apartment and 20% of all units are vacant. That doesn’t add up. NVM the fact price multiples vs. average income have been beyond belief. 30-50x average salaries in many metros.

The anti-espionage law has caused many US companies to cease travel to the country

The demographics of the population are a disaster

Multiple purges of government and business figures in country

This isn’t 2010 or even 2015 China
 
My brother is a State fan. I loved going to games with him and Wake would beat their ass. He got me last year. Damn.
 
I knew some cool guys at state too, problem was all the rest of em
 
LegalDeac26 said:
Is it actually getting unstable? People have been calling for China downfall for like 40 years and its never been right tbf
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Who has been predicting the downfall of China for 40 years? Nixon’s opening of China over 50 years ago ran contrary to
such predictions which predated Nixon.
 
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