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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

awakegirl said:
I admittedly don’t hate UNC as much as most people since they sucked when I was in school and then I went to law school there. I still don’t think they leave the ACC, but maybe I’m too naive. That said, I root for even my most hated ACC teams (see Duke) to beat any SEC team. The SEC is responsible for ruining college sports. I hate them.
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How about the Big 10? The SEC didn’t take a team west of Texas.
 
wfu22fan said:
How about the Big 10? The SEC didn’t take a team west of Texas.
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Yeah. I put much more blame on the Big 10 than the SEC. They SEC is at least made up of schools in contiguous states and basically the same geographic area.
 
LilburnDeac said:
Yeah. I put much more blame on the Big 10 than the SEC. They SEC is at least made up of schools in contiguous states and basically the same geographic area.
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To be clear, I hate them both and blame them both. Plenty of room in my heart to despise both of them. I’m still pissed they took Maryland- a team I actually cared to watch. Plus they’ll probably take UNC and FSU if they go. I just singled in on the SEC for last night’s purposes.
 
Was the start of the shuffling when we added Pitt, Miami, B.C., Syracuse and VahTech?

Or is that too far in the past to have a direct impact on today’s events?
 
bym051d said:
Was the start of the shuffling when we added Pitt, Miami, B.C., Syracuse and VahTech?

Or is that too far in the past to have a direct impact on today’s events?
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One could argue this started around the time of The Big East dissolving. A true basketball conference that had to disband because football was becoming king. I think this kinda lines up with those schools above coming to the ACC, but I’m not about to do that research.
 
I’ve come to think there are two ways to look at it:

1. The landscape has always been changing with teams looking for greener pastures and this was only accelerated by the media money coming into the picture causing more rapid change.

2. The ACC adding Big East schools set off the ultimate domino effect of which we’re feeling the effects of still today (and will continue to feel).

These aren’t even necessarily mutually exclusive. If the ACC hasn’t made the move in the early 2000s though someone still would’ve done something.
 
Expansion is what it is with the ACC taking the Big East schools, Big 10 taking Md Nebraska and Rutgers, Pac 12 taking Colorado and Utah, and even the SEC taking Oklahoma and Texas (and the Big 12 replacing them with dreck). Those at least generally make sense geographically. But it just seems to have gone a step too far with the Big 10 adding all these Pac 12 schools. Now we gotta deal with this cross country shit. Super lame.

But, I gotta accept it and will come to live with it since it’s best for Wake. Well, second best. The best is obviously the ACC breaking up, reforming, and Wake begging its way back in for an undetermined (but less) amount of money over an indeterminate amount of time (but maybe longer !).
 
BarcaDeac said:
But, I gotta accept it and will come to live with it since it’s best for Wake. Well, second best. The best is obviously the ACC breaking up, reforming, and Wake begging its way back in for an undetermined (but less) amount of money over an indeterminate amount of time (but maybe longer !).
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Well, obviously.
 
yeah the ACC is not blameless in all this ....we pretty much raided one of the most successful basketball conferences of all time because a lot of their members didn't play football . Another big moment was when the Big 12 took a bunch of teams from SWC conference and it folded.
 
SC DEAC said:
yeah the ACC is not blameless in all this ....we pretty much raided one of the most successful basketball conferences of all time because a lot of their members didn't play football . Another big moment was when the Big 12 took a bunch of teams from SWC conference and it folded.
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The TV networks are also part to blame here. The Big Ten Network started in the Fall of 2007; this was a big part of why Rutgers (who historically has been terrible at sports) and Maryland (who's done nothing special in sports) got poached - it was a way to get the Big Ten Network into the New York City and Washington DC media markets (and all the eyeballs that those markets have).
 
mersk862 said:
The TV networks are also part to blame here. The Big Ten Network started in the Fall of 2007; this was a big part of why Rutgers (who historically has been terrible at sports) and Maryland (who's done nothing special in sports) got poached - it was a way to get the Big Ten Network into the New York City and Washington DC media markets (and all the eyeballs that those markets have).
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I'm no fan of Maryland but NCAA championships in football and basketball is not "nothing special".
 
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