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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

Maryland won a football championship in 1953. Not exactly relevant in the 2000’s.
 
SC DEAC said:
yeah the ACC is not blameless in all this ....we pretty much raided one of the most successful basketball conferences of all time because a lot of their members didn't play football . Another big moment was when the Big 12 took a bunch of teams from SWC conference and it folded.
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Was that really a raid or a merger between Big 8 and SWC?
 
LilburnDeac said:
Was that really a raid or a merger between Big 8 and SWC?
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Well it was a merger to leverage TV rights. At that time TV contracts were negotiated by a lobbying group, the College Foitball Association. Notre Dame had just pulled out to do their deal with NBC. Conferences started thinking they should negotiate their own TV deals. The SWC was a Texas only conference so they didn’t have the national clout for a TV a deal. So the big 4 of the SWC left the other teams behind
 
PAC 10 is 13-0 after week one. And it’s not going exist next year. Isn’t it ironic?
 
regarding the SWC....I've read recently that SMU was pissed and frankly shocked that the Big 8 (12) took Baylor as the 4th Texas school instead of SMU, leaving SMU even more in the wilderness after the death penalty and now without a major conference home. That was the start of their journey and the major goal of their rich boosters was to get into a major conference. We obviously know how that story finally ended.
 
wfu22fan said:
PAC 10 is 13-0 after week one. And it’s not going exist next year. Isn’t it ironic?
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Max irony would be the Pac12 winning all out of conference games and beating each other up in conference so much that no team makes the CFP.
 
Deaconblue said:
I could see "reverse merger" in which the Pac12 name survives to attempt to maintain P5 status.
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Does the MWC GOR allow this? Ideally OSU and WSU pick who they want and get to 10 teams. But they’ll have to be a weak 14 league dragged down by New Mexico.
 
Think they need the MWC to dissolve the conference and then join the PAC. Doesn't seem likely to me at this point.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
Florida State and UNC have proven themselves to be solid middle of the pack conference teams over the last decade. That is nothing to sneeze at! They’ve avoided the basement of the conference. I’m very happy for them.
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Yet UNC-NC State football, FSU-Clemson football are two of the biggest ratings we have. And UNC-Duke is the only basketball rating factor the league has in the regular season. So irrespective of where they have finished in the standings, they have proven themselves in our $$$
 
macktheknife said:
Notre Dame flexed. They wanted Stanford. Made FSU piss down their pant leg.
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Wake wanted Stanford, Cal & SMU. AD Currie was advocating for all of them last week by calling the other schools.
Sgt Harp said:
Change of pace needed. Feel free to discuss how basketball may be affected. Excerpt from SI:


Stanford, Cal and SMU have combined to win zero men’s NCAA tournament games since the start of the 2014–15 season and have made three combined appearances in the Big Dance in that stretch. SMU hasn’t advanced in March Madness in more than three decades. Cal’s history is similarly bleak; its last trip to the NCAA tournament’s second weekend more than 25 years in the rearview mirror. Stanford has some degree of tradition but at present is so handicapped by academic requirements that winning like it did under Mike Montgomery seems close to impossible.

The ACC is also a league of iconic venues and fan bases: from Cameron Indoor Stadium at Duke to the “Dean Dome” in Chapel Hill to the Carrier (now JMA Wireless) Dome in Syracuse. Stanford, Cal and SMU each averaged fewer than 4,000 fans per game last season, with Cal’s attendance at a measly 2,155 per game (albeit for a 3–29 team).
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Stanford has won 134 NCAA team titles in 20 different sports.
 
PhDeac said:
If the Pac-12 doesn't exist I guess there will be one more at-large bid. But the MWC has been getting a lot of bids lately anyway.
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Gotta win to get in. Gotta quit losing to the likes of LSU, UGa, Stetson, Bellarmine, Navy, JMU, Loyola Chicago’s of the world as ACC teams if you want in to NCAA.
 
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