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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

I’m curious if they are getting good ratings anymore. Even I have barely watched them this year and I usually watch every single one.
Good question. Bowls will be even less important and less interesting after the 12-team CFP. Not sure how to fix that. I'm not sure if anything needs to be fixed. Athletic departments, fans, and sponsors will still want bowls. ESPN will still want the content.
 
Good question. Bowls will be even less important and less interesting after the 12-team CFP. Not sure how to fix that. I'm not sure if anything needs to be fixed. Athletic departments, fans, and sponsors will still want bowls. ESPN will still want the content.
Yeah, the ratings still have to be dominating whatever ESPN shows during the afternoons these days.
 
Depends on the NIL sponsor I guess. But players who skip have pro ambitions and would probably blow off such a deal anyway.
 
Here's the thing - bowl rating don't have to remain constant, they simply have to decline slower in relation to the rest of television programming. The surge in payouts to sports content isn't because their rating are better, it's because they haven't fallen off a cliff like everything else has in the current climate
 
Intersting article about the impact Furman's NCAA first round upset of Virginia.

I would assume this kind of press is actually much higher for bball than anything that could ever really happen to a school in football, short of making the CFP.
 
I would assume this kind of press is actually much higher for bball than anything that could ever really happen to a school in football, short of making the CFP.
Yeah. I don't know how much of a bump Liberty will get from making the NY6.
 
That is what I've heard as well. As long as the sponsors and TV kick in enough money, bowls will continue. The potential problem is with ESPN cutting spending in.many areas. At what point does this start hitting bowl payouts?
That is my point also. Sponsors are not seeing their value putting up millions in meaningless games (now to the players shown by their opting out) and alumni/supporters not buying tickets. Instead of bowl payouts, they just close out the bowl and don’t sponsor.
Texas A&M is down over 20 players from opt outs & portal. JMU was down their head coach, OC & DC and had to rent 5 assistants to get thru their bowl practices. Plus had 10+ in the portal, many of whom did play. UNC is down almost 20 players for the mayonnaise bowl.
 
Bowl ratings are still solid. A crap bowl will get a higher rating than an elite college basketball matchup like Kansas v Arizona. Football rules
 
Bowl ratings are still solid. A crap bowl will get a higher rating than an elite college basketball matchup like Kansas v Arizona. Football rules
How do bottom tier bowl ratings compare to First Four March Madness matchups? That’s really the fair comparison I would say.
 
Devaluing conference championship games, because both teams are likely invitees to the diluted college football playoffs, will hurt the championship games numbers long term. SEC Championship will no longer mean more. It will be just another pre-CFP game.
 
Devaluing conference championship games, because both teams are likely invitees to the diluted college football playoffs, will hurt the championship games numbers long term. SEC Championship will no longer mean more. It will be just another pre-CFP game.
Mostly agree, but it could well determine who gets 1st round bye, plus home field if the quarters are played on the campuses before it moves to the neutral bowl sites (which TBH I don't know what the planned format is prior to the 4-team playoff; can someone enlighten me?). But you're correct that it will lessen the SEC championship game's impact regardless.
 
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Don’t disagree and the decision to join ACC was one of the best decisions ever made by the University. You take away ACC- and Wake is like Richmond, Furman, Wofford, Elon, High Point, W&L, Davidson. Yeah I know we have med school.

I would argue we have much more in common with those schools anyways than Vandy, Duke, NW, Baylor, BC, Cuse, TCU, Stanford, SMU, and ND. That second group has either the endowment, in a huge metro area, bigger enrollment, national academic prestige, research, or national brand due to sports we don’t have.

This is true. However, it's not like we had a decision. We were good at the time thanks to Dick Hemric. We owe Dick Hemric everything. If you are bad at the wrong time, you are screwed for 50 years or more. We are picking a horrible time to be bad.
 
College Bowl ratings -


Historical First Four ratings -

Thanks! Looks fairly comparable from how I’m reading it.
 
Bowl ratings are still solid. A crap bowl will get a higher rating than an elite college basketball matchup like Kansas v Arizona. Football rules
We will see how long these dynamics last with the newness of opt outs and portals playing a huge roll. The PGA thought they were flying high till a new dynamic came in. Now longtime sponsors like Honda & Wells Fargo have bailed.
 
Mostly agree, but it could well determine who gets 1st round bye, plus home field if the quarters are played on the campuses before it moves to the neutral bowl sites (which TBH I don't know what the planned format is prior to the 4-team playoff; can someone enlighten me?). But you're correct that it will lessen the SEC championship game's impact regardless.
For now, the QF games are scheduled to be played around NYD at the sites of the existing NY6 bowls, with 4 of them hosting QF games, and the 2 other NY6 bowls hosting SF games around Jan.11th/12th. I think the schools may eventually want to move those games to campus sites as the top 4 conference champions will miss out on hosting a game in this format, and keep more of that money in house.
 
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