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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

I think we end up with a Super League

I have some sauces that predicted a Super League like outcome a year or 2 ago

Wake would be on the bubble, but my understanding is that teams could earn their way in/out of the top 60 or 70 based on performance
 
LilburnDeac said:
I agree. But I don't see the SEC and Big 10 agreeing to it.
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But I could see the new Big XII and ACC plus the PAC-2 agreeing to it if the money is right which could pressure the SEC and Big Ten to join for the big pay day.
 
buckets said:
I think we end up with a Super League

I have some sauces that predicted a Super League like outcome a year or 2 ago

Wake would be on the bubble, but my understanding is that teams could earn their way in/out of the top 60 or 70 based on performance
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Do they know about the % increase in our fanbase?
 
buckets said:
I think we end up with a Super League

I have some sauces that predicted a Super League like outcome a year or 2 ago

Wake would be on the bubble, but my understanding is that teams could earn their way in/out of the top 60 or 70 based on performance
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Well this particular Super League proposal includes all P5 school in the top 70 with permanent status
 
buckets said:
I think we end up with a Super League

I have some sauces that predicted a Super League like outcome a year or 2 ago

Wake would be on the bubble, but my understanding is that teams could earn their way in/out of the top 60 or 70 based on performance
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You get docked credibility points for not making nepo hires and any seats over 6K
 
Mercyhurst University (Erie, PA) is moving to division 1 effective next year and joining the NEC. The 2024-25 NEC:

-Central Connecticut State
-Le Moyne
-Fairleigh Dickinson
-Wagner
-LIU
-Saint Francis (PA)
-Stonehill
-Chicago State
-Mercyhurst

Gross. NEC has now lost Sacred Heart (MAAC), Merrimack (MAAC), St. Francis Brooklyn (dropped athletics), Mount St. Mary's (MAAC), Bryant (America East) and Robert Morris (Horizon) in the last 4 years.
 
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atldeac23 said:
Mercyhurst University (Erie, PA) is moving to division 1 effective next year and joining the NEC. The 2024-25 NEC:

-Central Connecticut State
-Le Moyne
-Fairleigh Dickinson
-Wagner
-LIU
-Saint Francis (PA)
-Stonehill
-Chicago State
-Mercyhurst

Gross. NEC has now lost Sacred Heat (MAAC), Merrimack (MAAC), St. Francis Brooklyn (dropped athletics), Mount St. Mary's (MAAC), Bryant (America East) and Robert Morris (Horizon) in the last 4 years.
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I have heard of some of these schools
 
BarcaDeac said:
I have heard of some of these schools
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NEC is at the absolute bottom of division 1 conferences, and as such receive the ultimate impact of realignment. So they are going to D2 schools to supplement their ranks, with mixed success. Merrimack was a good addition. Mercyhurst and Le Moyne might not be.
 
Until they eliminated the sport in 2020, Chicago State used to play baseball in the WAC.
 
ACC wins an early-round in the litigation against FSU. It's a long-ass opinion, over 70 pages, but in short:

  • Rejected that the ACC didn't follow its bylaws when its sued FSU in NC
  • No soverign immunity for FSU
  • FSU can't challenge the ACC media deals after profiting off of them for the past few years
  • ACC has standing to sue FSU
You can find the ruling on-line. In the short-term, this means that this will be a long drawn out battle if a settlement isn't agreed upon.

Link to the story

Another link

Link to the 76 page decision
 
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Pilchard said:
ACC wins an early-round in the litigation against FSU. It's a long-ass opinion, over 70 pages, but in short:

  • Rejected that the ACC didn't follow its bylaws when its sued FSU in NC
  • No soverign immunity for FSU
  • FSU can't challenge the ACC media deals after profiting off of them for the past few years
  • ACC has standing to sue FSU
You can find the ruling on-line. In the short-term, this means that this will be a long drawn out battle if a settlement isn't agreed upon.

Link to the story

Another link

Link to the 76 page decision
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Don't settle!
 
Pilchard said:
ACC wins an early-round in the litigation against FSU. It's a long-ass opinion, over 70 pages, but in short:

  • Rejected that the ACC didn't follow its bylaws when its sued FSU in NC
  • No soverign immunity for FSU
  • FSU can't challenge the ACC media deals after profiting off of them for the past few years
  • ACC has standing to sue FSU
You can find the ruling on-line. In the short-term, this means that this will be a long drawn out battle if a settlement isn't agreed upon.
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Might this aspect of the ruling impact Clemson's suit?
 
Buttermaker said:
Might this aspect of the ruling impact Clemson's suit?
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It could, but today's ruling was made in NC state court and Clemson's suit was filed in SC state court. So, technically, the SC court is not bound by the ruling of the NC court, particularly if any of the issues raised in the Clemson suit would be decided by applying SC law, but as a general proposition, courts don't like to decide something that another court already decided. So, the answer is a luke-warm maybe.

Probably the best news from the ruling is that FSU and Clemson (and any other school thinking of leaving the conference) will be unlikely to have any clarity on what it will owe the ACC if it withdraws from the conference this August. So, that might have a chilling effect on FSU's or any other school's decision to withdraw before the lawsuits are further down the road. My wild-ass and probably wrong guess is that FSU will file a notice to withdraw from the ACC before August 15, and Clemson will not. Clemson seems happy enough to let FSU go first in all of this, take all of the hits and assess the repercussions.
 
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