jaybone, "next year you can pencil in 20 wins"

[ChrisL68]

More RJ hypothetical BS where we would have won every game we were moderately competitive in.

 

[deacvision7]

I realize you and your brethern want to put down our players to achieve your goals.

19 minutes later...

Numbers if the frosh were modestly decent we would have beaten Wofford, Dayton and Maryland (1st time). With a little more talent we would have beaten Richmond and GT.

I'm not saying stars, just reasonable talent playing to their ratings.

That's 18-13 and a possible NIT bid.

If they play to their ratings and one is a star (not Top 10 in the country) twenty wins is a possibility.

 

[ChrisL68]

We are playing in that tourney. We have a Big 10 opponent, Seton Hall, Richmond and Xavier. That's 7 of the OOC games there.

 

[OldGoldBeard]

I realize you and your brethern want to put down our players to achieve your goals.

...

Missing CJ shows how little talent we have this year...

Other problems are problems with talent. this is one every team should be able to do.

A class in the 15-20 range is an impact class. this is especially true for a team that has little depth and not as much talent as other teams.

You can't win or keep games close if your talent is deficient. You can dream about it, but it isn't reality.

This season we have two legitimate ACC starters and four players who would get some minutes on other ACC teams. Of coruse we're going to get blown out by good teams.

There is a gross talent disconnect.

The reality is we don't have much talent this year and have no depth. When you add those two together, you get ugly losses.

It would be nice if this wasn't true but it is.

1. he hasn't gotten to coach reasonable talent and has it coming in next year. If doesn't succeed next year ,then fire him.

Chase will not be starting at the beginning of the season. If he does, we'll be throwing in the towel.

As Red Aurebach says,"Coaching starts with talent."

We won't have a severe talent shortage starting next year.

Tool.

 

[RJKarl]

Less hypothetical than your BS. We got blasted on the boards by Dayton and MD (didn't they get about 20 offensive boards the first game?).

The reality is we have to fail to justify your posts. If we don't then you look like a fool.

As to me being a cock-eyed optimist, I predicted we'd we 12-14 games before the season started and the right number of ACC wins.

Who is the realist?

 

[ChrisL68]

We will get blasted on the boards next year too.

How do I know that? Well, for starters, this is the 7th consecutive year that a Jeff [Redacted] team has finished outisde of the top 300 in offensive rebounding.

 

[TBR]

Numbers if the frosh were modestly decent we would have beaten Wofford, Dayton and Maryland (1st time). With a little more talent we would have beaten Richmond and GT.

I'm not saying stars, just reasonable talent playing to their ratings.

That's 18-13 and a possible NIT bid.

If they play to their ratings and one is a star (not Top 10 in the country) twenty wins is a possibility.

That's ridiculous. Maryland and Richmond let us back into those games because they were ahead by so much.

But, yes, I agree with you that it's [Redacted]'s fault we didn't win more games.

 

[RJKarl]

The fact that GB can;'t understand that we will have much more talent next year than we had this year shows he is an idiot (I didn't name call with either Chris or #s-if OGB wants to call me a tool-I have the right to treat him in the same manner).

The fact that OGB doesn't understand that adding competent bodies will lessen the burden on CJ and TRavis hows what an idiot he is.

The fact the OGB doesn't understand the difference between Tony as a starter and Tony as a backup shows he doesn't have a fucking clue.

The fact that OGB doesn't understand that we will be much talented and deep next year that we are this year also shows what an idiot he is.

 

[cville deac]

We are playing in that tourney. We have a Big 10 opponent, Seton Hall, Richmond and Xavier. That's 7 of the OOC games there.

Those teams are too good. Can't we get out of those contracts?

 

[OldGoldBeard]

The fact that GB can;'t understand that we will have much more talent next year than we had this year shows he is an idiot (I didn't name call with either Chris or #s-if OGB wants to call me a tool-I have the right to treat him in the same manner).

The fact that OGB doesn't understand that adding competent bodies will lessen the burden on CJ and TRavis hows what an idiot he is.

The fact the OGB doesn't understand the difference between Tony as a starter and Tony as a backup shows he doesn't have a fucking clue.

The fact that OGB doesn't understand that we will be much talented and deep next year that we are this year also shows what an idiot he is.

 

[deaconson]

The fact that GB can;'t understand that we will have much more talent next year than we had this year shows he is an idiot (I didn't name call with either Chris or #s-if OGB wants to call me a tool-I have the right to treat him in the same manner).

The fact that OGB doesn't understand that adding competent bodies will lessen the burden on CJ and TRavis hows what an idiot he is.

The fact the OGB doesn't understand the difference between Tony as a starter and Tony as a backup shows he doesn't have a fucking clue.

The fact that OGB doesn't understand that we will be much talented and deep next year that we are this year also shows what an idiot he is.

or maybe he is just pointing out the hypocrisy of you calling out people for "putting down our players to achieve <their> goals" while at the same time trashing the players currently on the team by saying they are terrible and the 6 frosh coming in will be a significant upgrade. maybe it's true but you are doing exactly what you are accusing them of... but then you know that.

 

[RacerDeac]

or maybe he is just pointing out the hypocrisy of you calling out people for "putting down our players to achieve <their> goals" while at the same time trashing the players currently on the team by saying they are terrible and the 6 frosh coming in will be a significant upgrade. maybe it's true but you are doing exactly what you are accusing them of... but then you know that.

It happens on the same thread on a daily basis at this point. I think I've pointed it out 2-3 times lately. Makes me laugh every time though.

 

[RJKarl]

Saying we are thin and don't have as much talent as other teams in the ACC is not putting down our players.

Show me where in ANY of OGB's quotes I said our guys were "terrible".

My bad, it's permissible to extrapolate and lie if you are buzzout or if you want to put words into my mouth that I never said.

 

[deacvision7]

Jesus, you suck.

 

[OldGoldBeard]

or maybe he is just pointing out the hypocrisy of you calling out people for "putting down our players to achieve <their> goals" while at the same time trashing the players currently on the team by saying they are terrible and the 6 frosh coming in will be a significant upgrade. maybe it's true but you are doing exactly what you are accusing them of... but then you know that.

WHY DOYOU LIFE?

Its not puttign down palyers say they dson't have talent if there talent good.

Codi is satr. Motoand Edvin will be ones. Roundtre, Drew, and Cab will depth. Stevei Wonder could see that.

If you shred of inetgityt, yuou would admit that.

But NAH, since its RJ its okay to put in my hnouth.

 

[deaconson]

Saying we are thin and don't have as much talent as other teams in the ACC is not putting down our players.

Show me where in ANY of OGB's quotes I said our guys were "terrible".

My bad, it's permissible to extrapolate and lie if you are buzzout or if you want to put words into my mouth that I never said.

words mean things. so does context. there is no extrapolating or lying when you say that we don't have "reasonable talent" and that we have a "severe talent shortage." those types of statements, and you make them a lot, are pretty harsh to the kids on the team giving their all. then again when you are bzzin it's permissible to throw kids under the buss. i learned that from listening to bzz. now you.

 

[PhDeac]

We will get blasted on the boards next year too.

How do I know that? Well, for starters, this is the 7th consecutive year that a Jeff [Redacted] team has finished outisde of the top 300 in offensive rebounding.

Of all the amazing statistics showing the futility of Jeff [Redacted]'s coaching career, that may be the most amazing one. It's really hard to finish in the bottom 45 in college basketball in any statistic. To do it over 7 years with 3 different programs is an amazing feat.

 

[buckets]

The bzzzzzin crowd loves this classic switch-up:

"We can't judge [Redacted] because our current players are so awful."

...

"We will be awesome with the addition of a couple freshmen."

 

[ChrisL68]

Saying we are thin and don't have as much talent as other teams in the ACC is not putting down our players.

Show me where in ANY of OGB's quotes I said our guys were "terrible".

My bad, it's permissible to extrapolate and lie if you are buzzout or if you want to put words into my mouth that I never said.

By the same regard, being realistic about the contributions we can expect out of 3 star freshman outside the top 100 isn't putting them down either, but it doesn't stop you from engaging in your bombastic hyperbole.

Do you think any objective source will predict us to be an NIT bubble team next year?

 

[DeaconBrews]

WHY DOYOU LIFE?

Its not puttign down palyers say they dson't have talent if there talent good.

Codi is satr. Motoand Edvin will be ones. Roundtre, Drew, and Cab will depth. Stevei Wonder could see that.

If you shred of inetgityt, yuou would admit that.

But NAH, since its RJ its okay to put in my hnouth.

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