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The Official OGBoards Running (and Cycling) Thread: (Insert Season Here)

HeavyPetter said:
You'd better get to Mt. Pleasant early and cram yourself up near the starting line if you're going to make your goal. The first three miles can be a real slog if you're stuck in the wrong group. I've had brief shouting matches with people who were walking up the center of the course less than a mile into the race.
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they corral people now, which helps a bit. i mean, it's still a complete cluster at the start. but except for the people who just straight up lie about their expected times, for the most part you're going to have faster people in front of you (plus getting to mt. pleasant isn't going to help all that much since you can't get in a different corral just by getting there earlier).
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
I obviously cannot and will never be able to relate to the mental challenge of running a marathon, but the most physically and mentally taxing thing I've ever done was a 1000m ergometer sprint that I finished in about 3'20". Or my 6'54point" 2k PR (at weight. What a bawse!) When you're truly going at your limits it doesn't have to be a very long race to completely sap you.
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this was my point about 5ks still being painful and difficult if you truly race them. i agree wholeheartedly that a 5k (or even shorter) can be completely draining. but i still don't get how you think that nobody under 30 should be running marathons. everybody is different in what they prefer. for me, my endurance is better than my speed. i prefer half and full marathons over 5ks. why should i wait until i'm old to race long distances if i prefer them NOW?
 
DeacHoops said:
they corral people now, which helps a bit. i mean, it's still a complete cluster at the start. but except for the people who just straight up lie about their expected times, for the most part you're going to have faster people in front of you (plus getting to mt. pleasant isn't going to help all that much since you can't get in a different corral just by getting there earlier).
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I ran it in 2010 and they had the corrals. You can't really police 30,000 people and it only takes a few to screw up for everyone's pace and gait. I guess some people would just rather start their walk at 8AM instead of 8:30; and to hell with everybody else.
 
HeavyPetter said:
I ran it in 2010 and they had the corrals. You can't really police 30,000 people and it only takes a few to screw up for everyone's pace and gait. I guess some people would just rather start their walk at 8AM instead of 8:30; and to hell with everybody else.
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yeah, but they changed the corrals in 2011. and they policed them a LOT. i mean, there are always ways to get around the rules. but my point is that he can get to mt. pleasant as early as he wants...he's still going to have to be in his own corral. getting there 20 minutes earlier isn't going to change that.
 
DeacHoops said:
this was my point about 5ks still being painful and difficult if you truly race them. i agree wholeheartedly that a 5k (or even shorter) can be completely draining. but i still don't get how you think that nobody under 30 should be running marathons. everybody is different in what they prefer. for me, my endurance is better than my speed. i prefer half and full marathons over 5ks. why should i wait until i'm old to race long distances if i prefer them NOW?
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See that's even more of a reason to run shorter faster races! You're locking yourself in a struggle against fate! It's really elemental! That's badass! Naturally slower (no judgement implied, I am one of them) people running marathons is so conformist.
 
DeacHoops said:
they corral people now, which helps a bit. i mean, it's still a complete cluster at the start. but except for the people who just straight up lie about their expected times, for the most part you're going to have faster people in front of you (plus getting to mt. pleasant isn't going to help all that much since you can't get in a different corral just by getting there earlier).
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when I went they had corrals but even though I left pretty early from downtown it took forever to get there, so I couldn't get into the appropriate corral and had to start behind wide people with wide strollers who I think made a conscious effort to not go in a straight line just to make passing as difficult as possible.
 
Yeah I'm in the sub-49 corral, which will hopefully help. My goal is to knock out the first half of the race in under 25 minutes, and then crush the last half in 20 minutes.

If I have to knock some old bitch down to make my time, so be it.

Also I'm staying with a buddy in Mount P Friday night, actually about a half a mile from the start. I'll probably just walk there.
 
5Ks are for losers. I could of run a decent 5K when I was 250 lbs and exercised one-a-week.

Real talk.
 
BillBrasky said:
Yeah I'm in the sub-49 corral, which will hopefully help. My goal is to knock out the first half of the race in under 25 minutes, and then crush the last half in 20 minutes.

If I have to knock some old bitch down to make my time, so be it.

Also I'm staying with a buddy in Mount P Friday night, actually about a half a mile from the start. I'll probably just walk there.
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Your splits will difinitely improve in the second half of the race. You get the downhill of the bridge and then the run through town. The phalanx is also a lot more broken up.
 
RollTheQuad06 said:
when I went they had corrals but even though I left pretty early from downtown it took forever to get there, so I couldn't get into the appropriate corral and had to start behind wide people with wide strollers who I think made a conscious effort to not go in a straight line just to make passing as difficult as possible.
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People with a stroller in a road race are idiots and scofflaws. From bridgerun.com

Can I run with a Baby Stroller/ Baby Jogger?
For safety reasons (concerning both your baby and the participants around you), baby strollers/ baby joggers are only allowed in the very LAST corral of the walkers(Corral M): the course is too congested for them to be anywhere else, as are the start and finish staging areas. Be aware that it is VERY dangerous to have a stroller amongst such a large crowd of people. You are encouraged to bring strollers to the 'Kids Run' instead, which is on Friday afternoon at Hampton Park.
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BillBrasky said:
5Ks are for losers. I could of run a decent 5K when I was 250 lbs and exercised one-a-week.

Real talk.
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Yeah, but for everyone outside of about 100 people in the world for every race distance, the enemy that has to be defeated isn't the other people on the course, it's your most recent time in the race. So the relatively low athletic barriers to entry in the group of people who can finish a 5k shouldn't be a deterent from picking that as the race which you're going to master for the next however many years. If you let someone else finishing the race detract from a PR or something, that says a lot more about you than it does about the distance. I don't think Usain Bolt beats himself up because "anyone can run 100m"
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
See that's even more of a reason to run shorter faster races! You're locking yourself in a struggle against fate! It's really elemental! That's badass! Naturally slower (no judgement implied, I am one of them) people running marathons is so conformist.
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i know you're just trying to rile people up. but i'll bite. there's something to be said for doing something out of your comfort zone. last year i raced a ton of 5ks because i needed something to FORCE myself to focus on the things that i'm not as good at (speedwork). it worked. i got faster. sweet.

but why would i continue to race at a distance that's not my strong point? my best distance is the half. it makes no sense to be like "well, i don't want to conform to what i am best built to be, so i'm going to race every other distance instead."
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
Yeah, but for everyone outside of about 100 people in the world for every race distance, the enemy that has to be defeated isn't the other people on the course, it's your most recent time in the race. So the relatively low athletic barriers to entry in the group of people who can finish a 5k shouldn't be a deterent from picking that as the race which you're going to master for the next however many years. If you let someone else finishing the race detract from a PR or something, that says a lot more about you than it does about the distance. I don't think Usain Bolt beats himself up because "anyone can run 100m"
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If you're not running for at least 30 minutes, and you're not an Olympian, just stay on the couch. You're wasting your time.
 
BillBrasky said:
5Ks are for losers. I could of run a decent 5K when I was 250 lbs and exercised one-a-week.

Real talk.
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No, 5ks are for everyone.

My mom worries about finishing under an hour. My dad takes 40 minutes. My sister was really pumped to just break 30 minutes. I was really pumped to just break 25 minutes. Races are exciting events with infectious energy. I'm happy for everyone of all speeds to be out there exercising. God knows most of the country could stand more exercise.
 
DeacHoops said:
i know you're just trying to rile people up. but i'll bite. there's something to be said for doing something out of your comfort zone. last year i raced a ton of 5ks because i needed something to FORCE myself to focus on the things that i'm not as good at (speedwork). it worked. i got faster. sweet.

but why would i continue to race at a distance that's not my strong point? my best distance is the half. it makes no sense to be like "well, i don't want to conform to what i am best built to be, so i'm going to race every other distance instead."
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Basically my thoughts come down to feeling that objectively faster speeds are more fun than better placements. A kid is smiling the most when running all out. 5ks are the shortest (and therefore fastest-paced) consistently-scheduled races for adults.
 
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RollTheQuad06 said:
I don't know why I bothered responding to that seriously.
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Seriously. I know Brasky is trying to make Tuffalo's argument look stupid by making hiw own absurd statements, but he's really just making himself look even dumber then Tuffalo. I understnad Tufaflo's position, but it has some pretty big holes in it that others have pointed out.
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
Basically my thoughts come down to feeling that objectively faster speeds are more fun than better placements. A kid is smiling the most when running all out. 5ks are the shortest (and therefore fastest-paced) consistently-scheduled races for adults.
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That's because anybody can run them and 10K organizers can get an extra $25 from people who want to feel like they're athletes and get a t-shirt.
 
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