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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

To aim at getting anything good accomplished, especially enduringly so, in today's political climate seems likely to require pragmatism. And would be ambitious.

Unfortunately.

Thx Pubs.

It would seem so but pragmatic Dems would require pragmatic Republicans to work with them. That's not happening. Obama and the 2008 Senate tried it. Didn't happen. Republicans made gains by not being pragmatic at all.
 
I think the big questions for Bernie are:

1. How well will his 2016 coalition hold up in the face of numerous well-known candidates running further to the left than Hillary did in 2016?

which candidates do you perceive as possibly taking away from his coalition?

of those who have announced, definitely Warren and maybe Gillibrand

of those who may announce, perhaps Beto and Brown

I guess some from Harris and Gabbard
 
To aim at getting anything good accomplished, especially enduringly so, in today's political climate seems likely to require pragmatism. And would be ambitious.

Unfortunately.

Thx Pubs.

Or a majority in both houses (along with the presidency). Getting to 50 Senators will be a difficult task for Dems, but not even close to an impossible one.

One way to guarantee a Republican majority in the Senate is for Dems to nominate an uninspiring “pragmatic” centrist.
 
which candidates do you perceive as possibly taking away from his coalition?

of those who have announced, definitely Warren and maybe Gillibrand

of those who may announce, perhaps Beto and Brown

I guess some from Harris and Gabbard

Warren and Brown (especially early on) seem like the biggest threats (and Beto if he gets in). But virtually everyone in the field is running on a platform pretty far to the left of Hillary so I could see a bunch of other candidates chipping away at Bernie’s supporters.
 
I heard some of that Buttigieg interview and agree that he sounds good.

His pathway is pretty clear. Stay above the fray. Attract likely Bernie voters who love the message, but aren't in the cult of personality around Bernie. Beat Kloubuchar in the Midwest with progressive values instead of centrist pragmatism.
 
His pathway is pretty clear. Stay above the fray. Attract likely Bernie voters who love the message, but aren't in the cult of personality around Bernie. Beat Kloubuchar in the Midwest with progressive values instead of centrist pragmatism.

Would love to see him make a go of it, but I imagine his candidacy ends up simply laying the groundwork for a 2022 Senate and then maybe 2028 presidential run.
 
His pathway is pretty clear. Stay above the fray. Attract likely Bernie voters who love the message, but aren't in the cult of personality around Bernie. Beat Kloubuchar in the Midwest with progressive values instead of centrist pragmatism.

My impressions of him have been that hes more centrist pragmatist than progressive. What are his progressive policy platforms? I don't see why he would necessarily attract Bernie voters in particular.
 
My impressions of him have been that hes more centrist pragmatist than progressive. What are his progressive policy platforms? I don't see why he would necessarily attract Bernie voters in particular.

LOL. He wrote essay on Bernie back in high school in 2000 to win the Profiles in Courage essay contest before a lot of you had ever heard of him.
https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/ed...-essays/2000-winning-essay-by-peter-buttigieg


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A new attitude has swept American politics. Candidates have discovered that is easier to be elected by not offending anyone rather than by impressing the voters. Politicians are rushing for the center, careful not to stick their necks out on issues. Most Democrats shy away from the word “liberal” like a horrid accusation. Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush uses the centrist rhetoric of “compassionate conservatism” while Pat Buchanan, once considered a mainstream Republican, has been driven off the ideological edge of the G.O.P. Just as film producers shoot different endings and let test audiences select the most pleasing, some candidates run “test platforms” through sample groups to see which is most likely to win before they speak out on major issue. This disturbing trend reveals cynicism, a double-sided problem, which is perhaps, the greatest threat to the continued success of the American political system.


Cynical candidates have developed an ability to outgrow their convictions in order to win power. Cynical citizens have given up on the election process, going to the polls at one of the lowest rates in the democratic world. Such an atmosphere inevitably distances our society from its leadership and is thus a fundamental threat to the principles of democracy. It also calls into question what motivates a run for office – in many cases, apparently, only the desire to occupy it. Fortunately for the political process, there remain a number of committed individuals who are steadfast enough in their beliefs to run for office to benefit their fellow Americans. Such people are willing to eschew political and personal comfort and convenience because they believe they can make a difference. One outstanding and inspiring example of such integrity is the country’s only Independent Congressman, Vermont’s Bernie Sanders.


Sanders’ courage is evident in the first word he uses to describe himself: “Socialist”. In a country where Communism is still the dirtiest of ideological dirty words, in a climate where even liberalism is considered radical, and Socialism is immediately and perhaps willfully confused with Communism, a politician dares to call himself a socialist? He does indeed. Here is someone who has “looked into his own soul” and expressed an ideology, the endorsement of which, in today’s political atmosphere, is analogous to a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Even though he has lived through a time in which an admitted socialist could not act in a film, let alone hold a Congressional seat, Sanders is not afraid to be candid about his political persuasion.
 
don't be ridiculous. you made a blase proclamation about your 'impressions' without even looking at his platform.
 
and what am i assuming about the younger voter? what age range are we talking here?
 
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