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2023-2024 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

with NC State causing so much havoc in the ACC rankings and on the bubble, is it possible that the ACC only gets 3 bids?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
with NC State causing so much havoc in the ACC rankings and on the bubble, is it possible that the ACC only gets 3 bids?
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I mean, clemson doesn't seem to be close to the bubble.

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Not only are we not in, our NIT seeding is looking bleaker and bleaker. Fun times! I don't know why I care any more.
 
  1. Guaranteed Teams: The NIT will guarantee two teams from each of the following six conferences: Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and Southeastern. These teams will be selected based on the NET rankings, regardless of their win-loss record.
  2. Host Opportunity: The 12 teams automatically selected will have the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.

So unless Clemson doesn't make the tournament, we are guaranteed a hosting spot.

The idea that a team with a low 40s Net and a KP in the 30s would be a 5 seed? LOL.

I would be surprised if we weren't a 2 seed.
 
Wake will end uo
ChrisL68 said:
  1. Guaranteed Teams: The NIT will guarantee two teams from each of the following six conferences: Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and Southeastern. These teams will be selected based on the NET rankings, regardless of their win-loss record.
  2. Host Opportunity: The 12 teams automatically selected will have the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.

So unless Clemson doesn't make the tournament, we are guaranteed a hosting spot.

The idea that a team with a low 40s Net and a KP in the 30s would be a 5 seed? LOL.

I would be surprised if we weren't a 2 seed.
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by these guidelines, Virginia is going to end up down the NIT list.
 
Michigan State has a resume almost identical to ours and people are saying they are safely in and we are not even on the bubble?

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ChrisL68 said:
Michigan State has a resume almost identical to ours and people are saying they are safely in and we are not even on the bubble?

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There doesn’t seem to be anything consistent right now about the selection process besides certain conferences being preferred and certain conferences being penalized. I mean we knew that was happening before the season started, but that doesn’t change how shitty it feels.

I did research on recent ACC tournament bids a few months ago and posted that Wake would need to win 14 ACC games to be safely in the tournament, and I think that’s exactly how it’s going to play out - the only ACC teams safely in are ones who won 17 and 15 conference games, while the teams who won 13 & 12 are trending out. Had we won 13 with a strong tournament showing I think we definitely would be in, but obviously we fell short of that.
 
ChrisL68 said:
Michigan State has a resume almost identical to ours and people are saying they are safely in and we are not even on the bubble?

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WF SOS: 73
MSU SOS: 14

The reason they're a lock and we aren't is we have, like you say, nearly identical records while according to the metrics michigan state have played a significantly harder schedule than we have.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
I did research on recent ACC tournament bids a few months ago and posted that Wake would need to win 14 ACC games to be safely in the tournament, and I think that’s exactly how it’s going to play out - the only ACC teams safely in are ones who won 17 and 15 conference games, while the teams who won 13 & 12 are trending out. Had we won 13 with a strong tournament showing I think we definitely would be in, but obviously we fell short of that.
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Clemson is “safely” in and they won 11 ACC games.
 
AJMorgan said:
WF SOS: 73
MSU SOS: 14

The reason they're a lock and we aren't is we have, like you say, nearly identical records while according to the metrics michigan state have played a significantly harder schedule than we have.
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I mean, I'm referring about nearly identical record quad comparisons, which should equalize the strength of schedule. And that wouldn't justify one team being safely in and another team not even being on the bubble

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