2023-24 Wake Forest Basketball Season - 21-14 (11-9) - KP#29 / NET#43

[WakeForest Fan]

tonight was WF's 6th ACC win of 19 points or more this season. Three of those wins were over teams at least in the middle of the league.

In 1994-95, WF won the ACC regular season (4-way tie) at 12-4. That team's largest margin of victory was 15 points. (Eat Shit, NC State)

In 2002-03, WF won the ACC regular season at 13-3. That team had one win of 19 or more points in the ACC - 21 over Clemson.

Obviously the bottom of the league is worse, but damn....

well 94-95 was when the acc was great

 

[Deaconblue]

I seriously don’t get it. We turn into the ‘96 Bulls whenever we play at home.

This is the puzzling aspect of Wake. Blow teams our at home. Can't quite squeeze out a road win.

 

[thatguy2016]

If anyone cares to dive deep into the stats, if you could split Home Wake and Road Wake into separate teams, where would each be in the Kenpom rankings?

believe it or not, Torvik has WF #36 at home, #45 Away+Neutral, #32 overall as of right now (before the Pitt game)

 

[WFU03]

believe it or not, Torvik has WF #36 at home, #45 Away+Neutral, #32 overall as of right now (before the Pitt game)

More than anything else, this makes me question Torvik’s system.

 

[daaberry]

Torvik still mad about the first half of the Elon game.

 

[morrison2951]

More than anything else, this makes me question Torvik’s system.

I question the whole damn selection system.

Watch the games dammit!

 

[PhDeac]

Up to #21 in Kenpom.

Wake isn't bad on the road. They just can't finish on the road. So the road metrics are probably pretty good for 30-35 minutes of the game.

 

[daaberry]

Wake is 44 spots higher than UVA on KP. Sure hope they find a way into the dance… if they miss, I’d think they would be in running for highest KP ranking ever to be left out.

 

[daaberry]

Torvik has Wake at #23. May take another 19+ win Saturday to really get some attention.

 

[Deac89]

NET for Wake will improve and could be quite a few spots. Note that UVA dropped 9 spots in the NET and VA Tech improved 9 spots after the Hokies 34 point home win over the Hoos (a Quad 2 win).

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Wake is 44 spots higher than UVA on KP. Sure hope they find a way into the dance… if they miss, I’d think they would be in running for highest KP ranking ever to be left out.

we are certainly putting stress on the selection process with our resume. Team that wins blowouts at home, loses close on the road, has only beaten 2 teams projected in the field, but has absolutely smoked some bubble teams.

 

[daaberry]

Certainly a unique case. Looking over past KP figures, this is the most balanced Wake team in 20+ years. Closest to them is the 03 team. Crazy to think that may be true, but still could miss the tournament.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

We gotta break this GOR and join a real basketball conference.

 

[Wakelaw2006]

 

[spritethr]

10,000?

Holy shit. We are in business.

 

[Deacfreak07]

I seriously don’t get it. We turn into the ‘96 Bulls whenever we play at home.

Everyone plays better at home (except weirdly Pitt this year). It’s why we lose on the road. We play worse, opponent plays better, we lose close. To the extent that those arbitrary weights are relevant, our losses are probably close enough that they would be wins on a neutral site.

 

[PhDeac]

The gaps in margin between playing Pitt and UVa home and road are unusual though.

 

[daaberry]

 

[awakegirl]

But did anyone say he didn’t give his all? You can try very hard and still play selfishly. I don’t understand why he’s the one player we can never criticize. That said, I get that Forbes is defending his guy and whatever he said got through last night.

 

[WindyCityDeac]

Forbes is right…if he prepared the team better for an end of game situation then there isn’t confusion and Cam doesn’t bring the ball up there