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A Confession, regarding Amendment One

ZDeac

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I've stayed off the politics board for pretty much my entire boards career. In light of recent events in North Carolina, a state that will always hold a dear place in my heart, I feel it is necessary to venture here today to get a few things off my chest.

I imagine that there were some votes for the amendment today from non-Christians. I know for sure that there were votes against the amendment cast by Christians. But, on the whole, there's little debate that conservative Christians (two words that I use to describe myself) were the driving force behind passing this amendment. In light of that, I offer the following:

There's a great passage in Donald Miller's book Blue Like Jazz where he and some friends set up a "confession" booth on the campus of Reed College in Portland. This booth, however, is designed as a reverse confession booth, where instead of people coming in and confessing their own sins, the Christians in the booths confessed to the many sins of the church, and engaged in open dialogue with anyone who ventured in.

I'm sad to say that it's time to add another sin to the already lengthy list we Christians have to confess. I'd like to get the process started:

I confess that we, as conservative Christians, are as intolerant as any group in this country. We find it easier to live life the way we always have, and are incredibly adept at finding "Biblical" ways to justify keeping it that way.

I'm sure everyone is aware that we conservative Christians like to passionately declare our desire to have a country who's laws are grounded in the Bible, but I confess that we really only mean it if it's convenient for us.

I confess to judging everyone else by a (Biblical) law that we ourselves are wholly incapable of keeping. In fact, in more cases than not, we really don't even try. And instead of working to hold ourselves to that higher standard, we try to legislate the parts we particularly like on everyone else.

I confess that we are not very good at loving our neighbors the way Christ first loved us. We move much too quickly to pick up the stones that just as deservedly could be pointed back at us. To paraphrase the songwriter Derek Webb, I confess that we pretend to be "living right" by trading our sins for others that are easier to hide. I believe it would be a sobering statistic to know the number of Christian husbands who voted for this amendment, and then returned home and ignored their families for a late night porn session and/or trip to the bottom of a bottle.

I could continue, but I think I'll leave it with this lyric, also from Webb's "I Repent"
I repent of wearing righteousness like a disguise
To see through the planks in my own eyes

I'm sorry that this has been handled this way. It's hypocritical and makes me sad. I hope you'd agree that we are entitled to believe what we'd like about what is and isn't a sin in God's eyes (and we may even have our own internal debate about it), but that doesn't give us the right, or even the reason, to force it upon anyone else through civil legislature. I have a passionate loyalty towards both the church and this country, but there should never be a reason for them to intersect in this way. I hope we can correct our error sooner than later.
 
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Excellent post and well said. I don't honestly know what to add other than +1.

I have really been convicted over the last few days that Christians across the country (and yesterday in NC) are becoming like the Pharisees. I have said it numerous times and probably need to shut up about it, lest I get too judgmental on my own. But as long as we are allowing divorce to be legal, and allowing atheist couples to wed, then the Christian definition of marriage needs to be left to the church to enforce. State law unions are entirely different.
 
I'll add my wholehearted agreement and add that unfortunately many who claim Christianity in the American South seem to follow moralism rather than Jesus.
 
thanks for posting.

Question to all Christians who feel the same:

Does this kind of thing make you want to leave your church? Not stop being a Christian, but leave the church you belong to and tithe (if they supported/encouraged this). Faith and church are two different things, and I wonder if people left these churches and stopped buying into Joel Osten and the others who author this type of legislation if you guys could reclaim your religion/faith/church, so to speak.
 
would you mind if i copy/pasted this (with credit given to you..albeit vaguely since i have no idea what your real name is) onto a facebook note?

very, very well said.
 
thanks for posting.

Question to all Christians who feel the same:

Does this kind of thing make you want to leave your church? Not stop being a Christian, but leave the church you belong to and tithe (if they supported/encouraged this). Faith and church are two different things, and I wonder if people left these churches and stopped buying into Joel Osten and the others who author this type of legislation if you guys could reclaim your religion/faith/church, so to speak.

Or you could just find a church that better aligns with your values. It's really not hard.
 
Does this kind of thing make you want to leave your church?

My particular church? No.The greater Church (big C), no. Would it make me leave a particular church (little c) if support for, or opposition to, was preached with surety from the pulpit as something that a Christian "must do" in order to be a good Christian? Yes. I know folks who have left the mother church of my own church and started coming to my church over the last several weeks for that exact reason. Hell, there are people who voted FOR the amendment who left their church because the pastor preached voting for the amendment as if it was Biblical truth/gospel.
 
thanks for posting.

Question to all Christians who feel the same:

Does this kind of thing make you want to leave your church? Not stop being a Christian, but leave the church you belong to and tithe (if they supported/encouraged this). Faith and church are two different things, and I wonder if people left these churches and stopped buying into Joel Osten and the others who author this type of legislation if you guys could reclaim your religion/faith/church, so to speak.

Actually, makes me more passionate about loving like Jesus did because I see how much we need it.

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thanks for posting.

Question to all Christians who feel the same:

Does this kind of thing make you want to leave your church? Not stop being a Christian, but leave the church you belong to and tithe (if they supported/encouraged this). Faith and church are two different things, and I wonder if people left these churches and stopped buying into Joel Osten and the others who author this type of legislation if you guys could reclaim your religion/faith/church, so to speak.

no, not at all.

first of all, my church did not take a stand at all (the official stance is that the church is a place where people go to hear the gospel. they did not want ANY message, from either side, to interfere with whether or not people heard the Gospel). if my church HAD taken a stand on the FOR side, then yes, i probably would have looked for a new church. but i would not have left the Church entirely.

second of all, i believe in speaking with your dollars when it comes to things like bad business practice (for example, i try not to ever shop at wal-mart, because i don't agree with the way the business is run, so i won't support them with my dollars). but that's not the best way to change a church. the Church (capital C because i'm not talking about a specific congregation, but rather the overall body of Christ) is best changed from the inside-out. to leave the church would be to further create a rift, and i believe it's this rift that caused this whole situation in the first place.

third, i may disagree vehemently with other Christians, but that doesn't mean i would ever turn away from Christ.
 
Gracious Father, we pray for thy holy catholic Church. Fill it
with all truth, in all truth with all peace. Where it is corrupt,
purify it; where it is in error, direct it; where in any thing it is
amiss, reform it. Where it is right, strengthen it; where it is in
want, provide for it; where it is divided, reunite it; for the sake
of Jesus Christ thy Son our Savior. Amen.

-Book of Common Prayer

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FTR my church made no public proclamation against the amendment, but I think most parishioners are clearly against it and the clergy has made a few leading statements. The fact that we've had a gay bishop in NH makes it pretty clear where we stand, although gay rights isn't something we tend to dewll on at all. The sermon this Sunday was about the church's commitment to Freedom Schools this summer with a plea for volunteers and supplies.
 
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FTR my church made no public proclamation against the amendment, but I think most parishioners are clearly against it and the clergy has made a few leading statements. The sermon this Sunday was about the church's commitment to Freedom Schools this summer with a plea for volunteers and supplies.

I really think churches that were silent really missed the ball on this one- there's that quote about not speaking out because I wasn't a Jew, Unionist, catholic, etc, then they came for me and no one was left to speak for me. Evil happens not because it is a force out there, but because we allow it to happen. I'm a priest, so I can't very well leave my congregation, but I think silence on this issue is almost as damning as speaking for it.

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I appreciate all the kind words/rep on this one. Anyone's free to use my text on facebook or in emails or whatever. Refer to me however you'd like - Friend/fellow Wake alum, whatever. I'm not exactly anonymous around here either, so my name is fair game too - Zach Smith '10, MSA '11
 
Great post ZDeac. For some reason I thought SCDeac started this thread and I got excited.
 
I really think churches that were silent really missed the ball on this one- there's that quote about not speaking out because I wasn't a Jew, Unionist, catholic, etc, then they came for me and no one was left to speak for me. Evil happens not because it is a force out there, but because we allow it to happen. I'm a priest, so I can't very well leave my congregation, but I think silence on this issue is almost as damning as speaking for it.

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Whenever I hear things like this I think about this:

 
I really think churches that were silent really missed the ball on this one- there's that quote about not speaking out because I wasn't a Jew, Unionist, catholic, etc, then they came for me and no one was left to speak for me. Evil happens not because it is a force out there, but because we allow it to happen. I'm a priest, so I can't very well leave my congregation, but I think silence on this issue is almost as damning as speaking for it.

We spend a lot of time and capital on social justice, so I think it was pretty clear within the congregation where we stand. We tend to stay out of the public fray however.
 
Well said sir.

To Wake and Bake: It was this kind thinking that caused me to leave my church. I have only recently been interested in finding a new church, and that is due to the woman in my life.
 
It's the antithesis of Judeo-Christian tradition when houses of worship become houses of hate and exclusion.
 
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