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ACCT Changes

Sounds good. If everybody gets in I was reading the format for conferences would have to go to 6 days and most don’t want that. Our Tuesday with 3 games has no crowd and they just don’t want two days like that.
Baseball takes only 12 so I don’t get the argument from basketball coaches that all teams should be in and have to play 6 games to win it.
 
TheReff said:
Sounds good. If everybody gets in I was reading the format for conferences would have to go to 6 days and most don’t want that. Our Tuesday with 3 games has no crowd and they just don’t want two days like that.
Baseball takes only 12 so I don’t get the argument from basketball coaches that all teams should be in and have to play 6 games to win it.
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I think it really sucks to not have everyone get a shot. That’s the whole beauty of the tournament. I remember that year Maryland played their way in way more than I remember any of the Duke titles. Expansion has just sucked the magic right out of sports.
 
awakegirl said:
I think it really sucks to not have everyone get a shot. That’s the whole beauty of the tournament. I remember that year Maryland played their way in way more than I remember any of the Duke titles. Expansion has just sucked the magic right out of sports.
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It has. The ACC Tournament weekend used to be almost like a holiday for me. But expansion combined with Wake deciding to almost give up in basketball has pretty much killed any interest I have in it.

I think 18 teams is too many. But so is 15 for that matter.

If they are going to leave teams out they should just make it a 4 day, 12 team tournament.


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morrison2951 said:
Screw it. Let's get back to 8 team ACC.
Round robin home and home.
Friday- Sunday ACCT.

Suck it sec and big20 football- you ruined everything! :(
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I’d love us to pull a Big East and say forget big time football, but that ship has sadly sailed.
 
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DemonDeac08 said:
Why stay with 15 and the two rounds of byes? Go to 16 teams, four days, and no byes.
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Nah. The current setup protects the top 4 seeds from a bad upset or a close Q3/4 win that could cost them a tourney spot or seeding.

In fact, I could go for a 14 team, 5 bye set up to give a 5th team a leg up and prevent the 4 seed from getting stuck with a bad matchup.

First round (3 games) - 9 vs. 14, 10 vs. 13, 11 vs. 12
Second round (3 games) - 6 vs. 11/12, 7 vs. 10/13, 8 vs. 9/14
Quarterfinals - 1 vs. 8/9/14, 2 vs. 7/10/13, 3 vs. 6/11/12, 4 vs. 5
 
LilburnDeac said:
It has. The ACC Tournament weekend used to be almost like a holiday for me. But expansion combined with Wake deciding to almost give up in basketball has pretty much killed any interest I have in it.

I think 18 teams is too many. But so is 15 for that matter.

If they are going to leave teams out they should just make it a 4 day, 12 team tournament.


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Yep, they do it now for baseball. Will be interesting to see what baseball does as we will have 16 baseball playing schools (which is a perfect 4 day bracket without double elimination, etc—just seed 1vs16, 2vs15. If they leave it at 12 the current pod deal still works with 4 teams out. But 4 pods of 4 (round robin) with a semi & a final stretched out too many days at 3 games a day max. That’s 5 games over a week.
 
morrison2951 said:
Screw it. Let's get back to 8 team ACC.
Round robin home and home.
Friday- Sunday ACCT.

Suck it sec and big20 football- you ruined everything! :(
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Don’t forget we were at the start of this crap ourselves. We raided the Big East for VT, Miami & BC back in 2005 then came back for Syracuse & Pitt in 2011.
 
DemonDeac08 said:
Why stay with 15 and the two rounds of byes? Go to 16 teams, four days, and no byes.
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How are you going to decide which half of the teams play in the nice arena in the round of 16, and which half get shipped to the 3,000-5,000 seat arena down the street (or 30 minutes away)? Because you can't play all 8 games in the same place on the same day.
 
That's a minor problem with that plan. The obvious answer is UNC and Duke get the big nice arena and who cares about the other two.
 
DemonDeac08 said:
Why stay with 15 and the two rounds of byes? Go to 16 teams, four days, and no byes.
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+1

Not a fan of byes in tournaments unless it's only one round due to the numbers. If you don't want to look bad before March Madness, don't lose to a worse team. 1 vs 16 still happens in the NCAAs. Playing for seeds should be enough. Having a double bye and potentially facing a team on a back-to-back-to-back is ridiculous.
 
PhDeac said:
Nah. The current setup protects the top 4 seeds from a bad upset or a close Q3/4 win that could cost them a tourney spot or seeding.

In fact, I could go for a 14 team, 5 bye set up to give a 5th team a leg up and prevent the 4 seed from getting stuck with a bad matchup.

First round (3 games) - 9 vs. 14, 10 vs. 13, 11 vs. 12
Second round (3 games) - 6 vs. 11/12, 7 vs. 10/13, 8 vs. 9/14
Quarterfinals - 1 vs. 8/9/14, 2 vs. 7/10/13, 3 vs. 6/11/12, 4 vs. 5
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Places more importance on regular season results.

What has the ACC announced on regular season games? Play everyone once with three fewer home and homes?
 
uncaboref said:
How are you going to decide which half of the teams play in the nice arena in the round of 16, and which half get shipped to the 3,000-5,000 seat arena down the street (or 30 minutes away)? Because you can't play all 8 games in the same place on the same day.
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I’m sure that’s easy to figure out. Go with something like the top 8 host the first round or the top four are host sites for two games each in the first round. No reason this should be an obstacle.

Something like:

1 v 16, 8 v 9 at 1’s house
2 v 15, 7 v 10 at 2’s house
3 v 14, 6 v 11 at 3’s house
4 v 13, 5 v 12 at 4’s house
 
ipitytheblue said:
+1

Not a fan of byes in tournaments unless it's only one round due to the numbers. If you don't want to look bad before March Madness, don't lose to a worse team. 1 vs 16 still happens in the NCAAs. Playing for seeds should be enough. Having a double bye and potentially facing a team on a back-to-back-to-back is ridiculous.
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If you don’t want b2b2b then win more in the regular season. There has to be some reward for 95% of the games you play all season. The ACC would just hurt itself even more if bubble teams fail in those positions
 
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