WFFaithful
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Are White Republicans More Racist than White Democrats?
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Who is "rich", by your standard? How much should they pay?
RChildress107
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General Social Survey
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RChildress107
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I would be interested to a see a breakdown by geography as well as urban vs. rural. Not really the point of the article though.
WFFaithful
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A progressively increasing tax rate for all income types along with decreasing deductions beginning with those making $500,000. Top tax rate of 65% for those making over $5,000,000 a year. Index income to inflation.
Do you believe that they are not paying their share, or do you not believe that they are not paying enough? I view them as different things. Of the amounts paid, I don't see a serious argument that they are not paying their "share". They are overpaying their "share" by any reasonable standard of amounts actually paid. It looks great on a bumper sticker, but it's not even arguably true that they aren't paying their share.
I believe that they are paying more than their share, but not enough, since everybody is going to have to pay a lot more to pay for all of our reckless spending.
WFFaithful
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Even if there were a flat tax, you'd still claim that the wealthy were paying more than their share because they'd still be paying a higher dollar amount.
"share" implies group participation, does it not?
We're all not paying enough; trillion dollar deficits seem to make that point rather succinctly, but the notion that some must pay all while others pay absolutely none is a ticket to trillion dollar deficits in perpetuity, and by extension, ruin.
Shorty
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Though you didn't mentioned it, I guess this means you question the veracity of the Pub number as well.
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I'm glad you feel that way about income inequality. What would you do about it?
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They probably polled Boston.
I think policies engineered to encourage two parent homes focused on education (and empowered to leverage choices in that system) is worth a shot over, say, reassuring everyone that they are all some type of victim and that nothing is their fault/responsibility and not to worry anyway that the government will provide just enough not to starve.
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myDeaconmyhand
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As a liberal I am perfectly ok with taking all the rich mans hard earned money by force and giving it to poor unresponsible victims. I'm glad jhmd understands our income distribution policy.
EatLeadCommie
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I think there is quite a bit of good to pull from those graphs. First, attitudes have changed significantly in a short period of time. Second, there seems to be a disconnect between black individuals and black culture among white people. You see less animosity toward the idea of a black president and black relationships. You even see a pretty wide rejection of the idea that blacks are somehow less intelligent. But when you start dealing with questions relating to poverty, you address blacks as a culture and a separate class. That's when you start seeing the numbers skew. The question then becomes how do you change mindsets so that black culture is viewed on the same level as that black friend of white people, or the black girlfriend of your brother, or that black politician that you voted for.