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BillBrasky Memorial Political Chat Thread

NYT sure knows how to find em
This is a pitchbot special.

We Talked to Some Kamala-but-Not-Joe Voters. Here’s What They Said.​


In a telling indication of how unsettled voters remain with a year to go, many of them expressed different opinions during the follow-up interviews than they did during the survey. In response to neutral questions, some who had said they were unsure became more sure of their support for either candidate by the end of the interview, and others switched their support after recalling their impressions of both candidates and talking more about their priority issues.

Not Joe Biden​

“Honestly, it was more of a choice of it just not being Joe Biden,” said Clara Carrillo-Hinojosa, a 21-year-old financial analyst in Las Vegas, of her support for Ms. Harris. She said she would probably vote for Mr. Trump: “Personally, I think we were doing a lot better when he was in the presidency, price-wise, money-wise, income-wise.”

Yet in some ways, Ms. Carrillo-Hinojosa is the kind of voter Mr. Biden hopes he can win once people start focusing on the race. Mr. Trump has offended her as a woman, she said, and she likes some of what Mr. Biden has done, including his support for Israel.

Most of all, she said, she strongly supports abortion rights — and did not realize that Mr. Biden does, too. She said that because states’ abortion bans had gone into effect during his presidency, she assumed it was because of him. Ultimately, despite her misgivings about the economy, support for abortion rights would probably be what decided her vote, she said.
Mr. Maxon, the 25-year-old garbage collector in Pennsylvania, considers himself a Democrat, though this election would be his first time voting. The Israel-Hamas war has made him doubt Mr. Biden’s handling of foreign affairs, and he recalls policies under Mr. Trump that helped him.
“My biggest thing is not seeing America fall in shambles,” he said. “With this war I think Biden is way too lenient — with Hamas, Iran, Iraq, the whole nine yards. What I like about Trump is he was keeping everybody at bay and not wanting to mess with America.”



Mr. Maxon, who is Black, said Mr. Trump had made racist remarks, yet he plans to vote for him. “He’s helped out countless Black people, more than Biden did by a landslide,” he said. Specifically, he said, it was through pandemic unemployment assistance and other relief funding at the start of the pandemic (the Biden administration also distributed relief funding).
 
This is a pitchbot special.

We Talked to Some Kamala-but-Not-Joe Voters. Here’s What They Said.​

So "Clara Carrillo-Hinojosa, a 21-year-old financial analyst in Las Vegas" somehow supports Kamala for POTUS but not Joe Biden, and said she will likely vote for Trump next year because under Trump we were doing "a lot better...price-wise, money-wise, income-wise.” Sure, sure. She was 14 when Trump was elected and 18 when he left office, but she knows all about Trump's great economy. Where does the Times find these people?
 
🤷🏻‍♂️ These seem like pretty typical general election voters. Everyone posting in the tunnels is probably 3x more politically cognizant than a typical GE voter.
 
Does anyone know someone who is somehow a “financial analyst” at only 21 years old but also thinks Joe Biden is anti abortion?
 
With the abject laziness and idiocy of Americans the Biden campaign would probably be best off making the election about trumps little mushroom dick. “You don’t want a president with a little mushroom dick do you? Of course not. Vote for this hog packer”
 
It amazes me how little people paid attention in high school Civics.
 
It's only a few weeks until we find out that Clara and Mr. Maxon are actually on the board of conservative PACs in Nevada and one or both tried to help in overturning the results of the 2020 election
 
It's only a few weeks until we find out that Clara and Mr. Maxon are actually on the board of conservative PACs in Nevada and one or both tried to help in overturning the results of the 2020 election
The Rat King, Trump calling his enemies “vermin.” Coincidence??
 
These people keep going to Target and keep finding rainbow paraphernalia but still haven’t put 2 and 2 together yet
 
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