No. It was clear the first time I just thought it might have been sarcasm because it was so dumb. Clearly, you’re being serious that the problem we’re having in keeping players is because we don’t have as many “good ole NC boys” on campus now.
Yep, I am sure if you polled all the top 100 basketball players in the country as to what would make them decide to stay in school v leaving early their answer would be if the school had a bunch of rednecks from NC.
Our student section is empty because we suck. Becoming a more national school and less of a southern regional school has nothing to do with our program sucking. Clearly, you don’t like it for your own personal reasons. But, to attribute that to the failure of our basketball team over the last 8 years is completely absurd.
Ah yes, I now see how my original post looks bad - with the good 'ole boy reference. Your response had some merit, minus the 'dumb' personal anger/attacks.
It's hard to describe or type real examples because you have clearly misunderstood what I meant - that does not make you dumb - just me a bad typist or poster perhaps? What I meant by that is there always seemed to be a handful of NC residents, with ties to NC (family) not rednecks, not racists at all, just regular guys from NC, who loved college hoops. Good ole boy is not the best way to explain that - my bad. I don't have any female points of reference, but do from middle/high school. NC residents are kind of like Kentucky residents - you can tell a difference with respect to hoops.
And you could sense these faculty really, really appreciated the players. That's all I am saying. I think we may have lost some of that as we have recruited new (more elite) faculty.
I recall 1-2 in communications actually trying to connect with the players, before and after class. Not in a jock sniffing way, more like sincere interest in the players. My original point, which I obviously did not explain well is I question if we have any of that going on for the athletes and perhaps the students in general. It seems like wake is a 65K per year uber-competitive career factory with little mentoring and connections between faculty and student athletes, and perhaps students general - our sense of community. Just question that part of our "culture." Not sure it really exists the way I witnessed.
As for the southern regional stuff, I don't think students turned out for our non-sucking football program last year. Sure they will be at the ND game this year, but once we are not sucking at 6-4 in November hosting Pittsburgh with a shot at 8-4 and then 9-4 - they will not show up (unless we are 8-2 or 9-1). We will not be sucking. And we will blame it on Thanksgiving or whatever. Basketball is toast, since even a top-20 team will not draw how we have in the past. I think donaldross may be onto something.
Feel free to call all this drivel or "dumb" or whatever, all you like
I typically stay cordial with fellow Deacs