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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

Simplest solution to scheduling. Eight game schedule. Play half the conference teams year one and the other half year two. Alternate home and away. After four years change the mix of schools. Repeat. Add another school, then go to a nine game schedule and do the same thing. If schools want to maintain a yearly rivalry, do so as an OOC game just like Wake and UNC did.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
How can State have UNC and Clemson as rivals if Duke has State as a rival too? Makes you wonder!
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The original thinking was a couple of years ago, strictly based on viewer ratings from TV, that the State-Clemson & State-UNC matchups were two of the most watched games. Plus two of the best teams along with Wake. They couldn’t give State the Deacons as their 3rd matchup because if fairness in schedule toughness. (Based on how good we have been in Clawson era).
Soooooo, they thought giving them Duke as the 3rd team would ease the schedule a bit but still give ratings. Who the hell would have thunk the first year of new system Dookies are coming off 9 wins and are ranked.
 
BlackjackMc said:
Simplest solution to scheduling. Eight game schedule. Play half the conference teams year one and the other half year two. Alternate home and away. After four years change the mix of schools. Repeat. Add another school, then go to a nine game schedule and do the same thing. If schools want to maintain a yearly rivalry, do so as an OOC game just like Wake and UNC did.
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Come on man, that would be too simple to do.
 
Esteban said:
Now the lawyers are really getting involved. Tier one shit show.
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Makes sense that Oregon State and Wazzu could do better than simply becoming the 12th and 13th members of the Mountain West. Sounds like they want to keep the Pac 12 going by building their own conference. Maybe cherry pick the best programs from the MWC and add Gonzaga. They are trying to be creative rather than just accepting the relegation.
 
Pilchard said:
Makes sense that Oregon State and Wazzu could do better than simply becoming the 12th and 13th members of the Mountain West. Sounds like they want to keep the Pac 12 going by building their own conference. Maybe cherry pick the best programs from the MWC and add Gonzaga. They are trying to be creative rather than just accepting the relegation.
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As they should. Who would you go after if you were Oregon State and Wazzu? Or would you keep the title for a bit (with no conference championship obviously) and try to hold out hope of getting in the Big XII or ACC?
 
Pilchard said:
Makes sense that Oregon State and Wazzu could do better than simply becoming the 12th and 13th members of the Mountain West. Sounds like they want to keep the Pac 12 going by building their own conference. Maybe cherry pick the best programs from the MWC and add Gonzaga. They are trying to be creative rather than just accepting the relegation.
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They are also trying to prevent the departing members from dissolving the conference and splitting the assets. They claim that they are the only voting members since the other schools declared they are leaving. And according to the by-laws they are correct.
 
Fresno Boise SDSU Utah State seem like no brainers. Probably toss Wyoming and Colorado State in as well.

Meh on SJSU Nevada UNLV Air Force Hawaii (I guess they’re a cool draw overall). A pretty solid LOL no to New Mexico beyond their basketball having some okay history.
 
Would also add Gonzaga, even if it's just for basketball. San Diego State and Gonzaga would be two strong anchors for a hoop league.
 
LilburnDeac said:
They are also trying to prevent the departing members from dissolving the conference and splitting the assets. They claim that they are the only voting members since the other schools declared they are leaving. And according to the by-laws they are correct.
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As the only voting members, OSU and WSU should vote to change the distribution of this years media rights money to some metric that only they qualify for...
 
Should they raid the AAC? I could see a 6 team West (OSU, WSU, Frenso, Boise, SDSU, and Utah State) and a 6 team East.

They could also add Air Force as a 7th team in the West with Navy and Army in the East and unite the academies.
 
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If this is about media rights, I assume that the ADs for Wazzu and the Beavers are in contact with ESPN, Fox Sports, NBC Sports, CBS Sports along with the streamers are essentially asking which combination of schools would create the most attractive media rights package. The Pacific Northwest is a growing area, and now with all of the other prominent West Coast programs playing half of their games (if not more) in the East and Midwest (USC, UCLA, Washington and Oregon are going to be playing a ton of games that start way early in the Pacific Time zone now -- when USC plays at Maryland in football at noon; people on the West Coast looking for late night football will need to find another option); there should be programming needs for late night sports. Seems like there's a chance this could work out to at least a decent solution for the "best of the rest of the west".
 
Pilchard said:
If this is about media rights, I assume that the ADs for Wazzu and the Beavers are in contact with ESPN, Fox Sports, NBC Sports, CBS Sports along with the streamers are essentially asking which combination of schools would create the most attractive media rights package. The Pacific Northwest is a growing area, and now with all of the other prominent West Coast programs playing half of their games (if not more) in the East and Midwest (USC, UCLA, Washington and Oregon are going to be playing a ton of games that start way early now; there should be programming needs for late night sports. Seems like there's a chance this could work out to at least a decent solution for the "best of the rest of the west".
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Yeah. Late night WAC games were a staple back in the Timmy Chang era. A new Pac-12 could bring that back. But adding an eastern flank could give them a 14 hour presence on Saturday with one or two games in every slot (noon, 3:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 11:00 est).
 
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Promotion/relegation in college football? Game-changing idea could help save Pac-12

What if the Pac-12 and Mountain West changed the way college conferences operate by borrowing an idea from European soccer leagues?
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This might be some crazy genius stuff here. Solves the problem of the PAC 12 and MWC surviving, and that not all MWC football programs are even decent. Plus, not mentioned, the Big Sky seems to have like a third of the top 25 FCS programs in the country. Have three conferences involved, tied together, relegating up and down.

"One of the key questions: Will the NCAA and CFP even consider the two separate conferences?"

I mean, how could they not? This is no different than bigger money conference A stealing smaller money conference Bs two best teams. Has been happening every year now, and the conferences still are recognized.

What is different is that the two worst teams aren't typically shipped out or claimed by a lower money conference.* How would that be the differentiator in what is one conference vs two?
*OSU and WSU exception that proves rule

This is two conferences, with a scheduling alliance, and contractual agreements about what theft between conferences is acceptable.

I think their pretend $7.5 million and $5 million numbers are too low. I would watch this and follow it. If it works, and draws interest, it could substitute for the idea that 32 or 48 or 60 schools, selected by random realignment happenings in the past, crystallize and withdraw into a Super League and pull the ladder up behind them.
 
PTI segment yesterday said that SMU hit up 30 of their largest boosters and quickly cobbled together $100MM for mostly NIL to compete in the ACC; assumption most of it going to football; lack of ACC media rights be-damned. Maybe FSU should try this approach, in their case getting their orange barons or whomever to pony up vs. SMU's oil $$.
 
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