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Coronavirus !!! Very Political Thread !!!

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Two interesting tidbits frim Andy Slavitt:
1. Primary care doctors (and I'll add other entities in the healthcare system) might go bankrupt.
2) Even as testing is ramping up (still woefully inadequate), the percentage of positive test results is not dropping. This seems really bad.
 
WFFaithful said:
Two interesting tidbits frim Andy Slavitt:
1. Primary care doctors (and I'll add other entities in the healthcare system) might go bankrupt.
2) Even as testing is ramping up (still woefully inadequate), the percentage of positive test results is not dropping. This seems really bad.
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There's going to be massive amounts bankruptcies.
 
WFFaithful said:
Two interesting tidbits frim Andy Slavitt:
1. Primary care doctors (and I'll add other entities in the healthcare system) might go bankrupt.
2) Even as testing is ramping up (still woefully inadequate), the percentage of positive test results is not dropping. This seems really bad.
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Why does percentage of positive test results not dropping seem bad? I would think it is bad if that percentage was getting very high. I honestly though the positive tests would be much higher because you basically have to have strong symptoms and at risk to even get a test.
 
ConnorEl said:
Evidence emerging that NY outbreak originated primarily from Europe.
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No shit. I think everyone already knew that. While the US, Canada and Aussie did restrict travel from China to a significant degree, they did nothing to stop travel from Europe. And Europe did almost nothing to stop travel from China. Some countries didn't bother to act until around St. Patrick's day - and by that time Italy was reporting thousands of new cases a day.
 
TAG1615 said:
Why does percentage of positive test results not dropping seem bad? I would think it is bad if that percentage was getting very high. I honestly though the positive tests would be much higher because you basically have to have strong symptoms and at risk to even get a test.
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I suspect his point is that in some places we can now test seemingly healthy people and the positives are not dropping. Still the right thing to do.

His point about people going bankrupt is a "tell the world something it doesn't already know" moment.
 
WFFaithful said:
"Under the new guidance, people who are exposed to someone infected would be allowed back on the job if they are asymptomatic, test their temperature twice a day and wear a face mask, a person familiar with the proposal under consideration told The Associated Press."


This seems not good.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-cdc-guidelines-back-to-work-self-isolate/
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I know a lot of businesses will not adhere to this guidance. Why would we they want potentially to endure "friendly fire" illnesses among their workforce?
 
WFFaithful said:
Two interesting tidbits frim Andy Slavitt:
1. Primary care doctors (and I'll add other entities in the healthcare system) might go bankrupt.
2) Even as testing is ramping up (still woefully inadequate), the percentage of positive test results is not dropping. This seems really bad.
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Why PCPs? They are actually staying quite busy compared to specialists at this time. The PCP offices are seeing patients in clinic, running virtual clinics, and managing outpatient COVID cases. Whereas ortho, neurosurgery, plastic surgery, etc have basically ground to a halt.
 
DeacMan said:
No shit. I think everyone already knew that. While the US, Canada and Aussie did restrict travel from China to a significant degree, they did nothing to stop travel from Europe. And Europe did almost nothing to stop travel from China. Some countries didn't bother to act until around St. Patrick's day - and by that time Italy was reporting thousands of new cases a day.
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Virologic (genetic) evidence to support the reasonable speculation.
 
Rafi said:
Why PCPs? They are actually staying quite busy compared to specialists at this time. The PCP offices are seeing patients in clinic, running virtual clinics, and managing outpatient COVID cases. Whereas ortho, neurosurgery, plastic surgery, etc have basically ground to a halt.
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Rural hospitals in non-Medicaid expansion states will be at higher risk of closing.
 
Weird that this small business loan thing is a priority, as from what I understand from my bank, the bank is fronting the loan money, and then they get reimbursed by the govt in 2 months once the loans are forgiven. So there shouldn't be much of a "rush" to fund this program more, as the funds aren't being sent to the banks for months.
 
DeacMan said:
I suspect his point is that in some places we can now test seemingly healthy people and the positives are not dropping. Still the right thing to do.

His point about people going bankrupt is a "tell the world something it doesn't already know" moment.
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I think his point was even simpler than that. Two weeks ago, the assumption that the percentage was high because the denominator was low and even if death rates spiked, the percentage would get lower because the denominator was increasing. The percentage staying the same as more people are getting tested is disappointing.
 
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/08/cd...study-hyped-by-trump-is-called-into-question/

CDC quietly deletes hydroxychloroquine guidance as study hyped by Trump comes into question
The publisher of a French study cited by Trump put out a statement announcing it did not meet "expected standards"


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APRIL 8, 2020 10:56PM (UTC)
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday quietly removed bizarre guidelines for using the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for the new coronavirus. The unproven treatment has been repeatedly hyped by President Donald Trump in spite of the warnings of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

The CDC published "highly unusual" dosing guidance based on "unattributed anecdotes rather than peer-reviewed science" last month amid pressure on federal health officials from Trump, Reuters reported. The agency now appears to have quietly removed those guidelines from its website this week.
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