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COVID Thread 2: Operation Ludicrous Speed ! (Super Political!!!)

I think the worst possible thing that could’ve happened for my in-laws was for us to catch Covid and then get through it with only minor(and this is very relative in my wife’s case) setbacks. Because they now think it’s no big deal despite the fact that we may have gotten through it a little easier than them because we’re 40 years younger, don’t smoke, don’t have diabetes or major cardiac issues, and eat healthy and exercise 5 times a week. But they took our experience as an open invitation to head back to their crowded mask less church and go out to eat at kfc and Hardee’s 5 times a week.
 
There are many reasons to make comparisons invalid, most of them not political.
1. Masks are a way of life in South Korean society. (Air quality issues) Far from in the US.
2. South Korea instituted very strict, intrusive quarantine measures that would never be accepted in the US.
3. South Korea instituted vast tracing technology much easier to enact in a country with their population and geography than the US could ever do, even if they had the impetus to do so.
Could we have done more? Absolutely. You want to make it politics, have at it. But California’s doing about as much as a “State” could do and still had its outbreaks, etc. And the majority of its population is still screaming to “open up”.
All the great things we are (free, independent, democratic) works against us when face a public health crisis as this is.
Watch, Biden and his Admin will face the same challenges.
Until a vaccine is available, unfortunately the cases will continue to rise in my opinion.
 
DeacsPop said:
There are many reasons to make comparisons invalid, most of them not political.
1. Masks are a way of life in South Korean society. (Air quality issues) Far from in the US.
2. South Korea instituted very strict, intrusive quarantine measures that would never be accepted in the US.
3. South Korea instituted vast tracing technology much easier to enact in a country with their population and geography than the US could ever do, even if they had the impetus to do so.
Could we have done more? Absolutely. You want to make it politics, have at it. But California’s doing about as much as a “State” could do and still had its outbreaks, etc. And the majority of its population is still screaming to “open up”.
All the great things we are () works against us when face a public health crisis as this is.
Watch, Biden and his Admin will face the same challenges.
Until a vaccine is available, unfortunately the cases will continue to rise in my opinion.
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Who’s going to tell him that free, independent, and democratic are three words that describe South Korea?
 
Of course.

Trump (and the degenerate party he rode in on) can’t tolerate truth telling. Or reality.

And understands essentially nothing of wisdom, prudence, virtue, integrity, decency, honor.

Oh, and of course...public health policy.
 
WakeForestRanger said:
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These people....they need someone to tell them the pandemic is over. They aren’t as dumb as they sound, they just can’t be. They managed to dress themselves and find their way to the rally. They are just tired of the pandemic like all of us, and they need their Mick Jagger to tell them it is over and everything is ok. It’s fucking sad there is a vote tied to it. We’d all be better off if Trump were just a political sideshow to placate these sad souls
 
ConnorEl said:
Of course.

Trump (and the degenerate party he rode in on) can’t tolerate truth telling. Or reality.

And understands essentially nothing of wisdom, prudence, virtue, integrity, decency, honor.

Oh, and of course...public health policy.
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God uses imperfect vessels...
 
On September 1, IHME, with its hundreds of scientists and millions in funding from Bill Gates and others, predicted 255,000 reported U.S. deaths by 11/1.

Youyang Gu, a dude with a degree from MIT and a computer who built a model just to see whether he could, predicted 219,000 reported U.S. deaths by 11/1.

Covid Tracking Project reports 222,704 reported U.S. deaths as of 11/1.

Youyang Gu is no longer updating his projections because he didn't get any funding and he needed to focus his time on something that would earn some money.
 
Scientists must be dumb then! Open up America! It’s just the flu!
 
BeachBumDeac said:
Scientists must be dumb then! Open up America! It’s just the flu!
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I intentionally avoided adding in caveats to see who would rush to post a stupid conclusion. you win!

Scientists generally aren't dumb, but some are better than others at making predictions. I noted this 9 weeks ago

https://www.ogboards.com/forums/sho...ry-Political-Thread-!!!?p=3580739#post3580739

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you should consider looking at a second model which has consistently outperformed IHME:

https://covid19-projections.com/us

it doesn't paint a super rosy picture either, but that projection is *only* 227,000 deaths by November 1
 
WakeForestRanger said:
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And pubs/rubes say Trump has done everything Biden has proposed. The President's words matter. He has done everything he can with his words, and lies, to dismiss the threat and damage the credibility of those that can help. There is a real death count attached to that. There is also a financial and psychological impact resulting from his selfish and evil handling of this pandemic. He is a coward that ran from the only crisis he faced during his term.
 
Still not sure what your point is. Who here has held up the IHME as the end all be all?
 
thatguy2016 said:
On September 1, IHME, with its hundreds of scientists and millions in funding from Bill Gates and others, predicted 255,000 reported U.S. deaths by 11/1.

Youyang Gu, a dude with a degree from MIT and a computer who built a model just to see whether he could, predicted 219,000 reported U.S. deaths by 11/1.

Covid Tracking Project reports 222,704 reported U.S. deaths as of 11/1.

Youyang Gu is no longer updating his projections because he didn't get any funding and he needed to focus his time on something that would earn some money.
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What were the confidence intervals of prediction interval on the 255000 prediction and the 219000 prediction? Predicting 61 days ahead that there will be 255000 deaths and actually having 223000 is pretty good.
 
birdman said:
What were the confidence intervals of prediction interval on the 255000 prediction and the 219000 prediction? Predicting 61 days ahead that there will be 255000 deaths and actually having 223000 is pretty good.
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This. Beats "projections" that we were turning the corner.
 
So turns out having people in government that don't really give a fuck about the citizens is a bad thing.

 
And if there’s a blue wave, there’s no way Republicans do anything about it.
 
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