• Welcome to OGBoards 10.0, keep in mind that we will be making LOTS of changes to smooth out the experience here and make it as close as possible functionally to the old software, but feel free to drop suggestions or requests in the Tech Support subforum!

CROOKED Hilary

Why did Chelsea use a fake name, "Diane Reynolds", when emailing Hillary?
A watchdog group asked a federal court on Thursday to order the State Department to expedite its release of Chelsea Clinton-related records, arguing that at the current rate it would take the department 38 years to produce all the documents.

Citizens United has been suing the State Department to turn over correspondence between department officials and Chelsea Clinton, who used the pseudonym “Diane Reynolds” in many of her emails. It is also asking for emails between State Department officials and the Clinton family’s long-time aides Amitabh Desai, Justin Cooper, and Oscar Flores.

The D.C. district court ordered the State Department to release portions of the records to Citizens United on a rolling basis every four weeks, but did not specify an end date to complete the production.

On June 1, the State Department said it had found nearly 4,000 documents responsive to the Citizens United request, but over the past two months it has released just 17 of them.

“Thus, in the past two months, Defendant has produced only 17 documents out of a reported total of 3,924, and at a rate of only 127 pages per month,” said Citizens United in the motion to modify the production order on Thursday. “At this rate, it would take Defendant more than 38 years to complete production to Plaintiff.”
http://freebeacon.com/issues/watchdog-slow-roll-chelsea-clinton-emails/
 
iKzhlh.jpg
 
Examining foreign donors to Clinton foundation, Monsanto company headquarters in the foreign land of St Louis Missouri. Though if Mormon I guess the garden of Eden is consider a foreign land?
 
Former UN General Assembly president John Ashe died After Barbell Dropped On His neck - Just Before Corruption Testimony With Ties To Clinton
Ashe was due in court Monday with his Chinese businessman co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, who is charged with smuggling $4.5 million into the US since 2013 and lying that it was to buy art and casino chips.

Ng was identified in a 1998 Senate report as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Trie, to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration. (Ng was not charged with any crime.)

Ng and Trie had visited the White House several times for Democratic fund-raising events and were photographed with then-President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton.

One source told me, “During the trial, the prosecutors would have linked Ashe to the Clinton bagman Ng. It would have been very embarrassing. His death was conveniently timed.”

Ashe’s lawyer Jeremy Schneider told me he is sure Ashe’s death was an accident. “There is not one iota of evidence that it was homicide. This is nothing at all like Vince Foster.”


Police in Dobbs Ferry village are keeping the investigation open pending an autopsy by the Westchester medical examiner.
http://pagesix.com/2016/06/26/disgraced-ex-un-officials-death-conveniently-timed/
 
Hillary is in a cult.
For 15 years, Hillary Clinton has been part of a secretive religious group that seeks to bring Jesus back to Capitol Hill.
Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."
When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.
Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics
 
lol, I was a Senate intern with the Fellowship in 2007, it's not a cult.
 
Who has the best resume built up to spend eternity in hell? HRC or The Donald?
 
LOL! It's the Clinton way.
EXCLUSIVE: Pro-Hillary group takes $200K in banned donations
A super-PAC backing Hillary Clinton has accepted $200,000 in donations from a company holding multiple contracts with the federal government — despite a ban on such contributions.

According to a review of contributions by The Hill, Boston-based Suffolk Construction made two contributions of $100,000 to Priorities USA, which is backing the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

At the time it made the contributions, Suffolk held multiple contracts worth $976,560 with the Department of Defense for maintenance and construction projects at a Naval base in Newport, R.I., and the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., according to the government website USASpending.gov.

Suffolk — which, by Forbes’s estimate, brings in some $2 billion in revenue annually — also donated $10,000 in 2015 to Right to Rise, a super-PAC that supported Republican Jeb Bush’s now-defunct presidential bid.

The donations from Suffolk highlight how a 70-year-old campaign finance law meant to prevent pay-to-play deals between public officials and companies making money from the government is often ignored by those making the donations and those on the receiving end.

The two contributions, one made in July and one in December, came during Clinton’s presidential primary battle with Bernie Sanders, who rose to prominence partly because he railed against super-PACs and the wealthy donors who fund them.

A review of campaign finance records by The Hill shows that the practice of skirting or openly flouting the contractor ban has become widespread in both congressional and presidential politics.

There are multiple reasons why the law is ignored.

Some lawyers believe the prohibition on a contractor giving to a super-PAC is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has never issued a ruling on the specific matter.

Perhaps more importantly, donors face little chance of being penalized by a Federal Election Commission (FEC) that is so divided between its Republican and Democratic members it has proved incapable of deciding even the most basic questions, such as whether to investigate complaints.

Priorities USA stipulates on its website that donors can’t be federal contractors. Yet a spokesman for the super-PAC declined to comment in response to a question about whether the donations from Suffolk would be returned.

Clinton’s campaign also declined to comment.

“The increasing trend of contractors violating the law comes as no surprise,” said Craig Holman of Public Citizen, an advocacy group that was involved in a high-profile case regarding the ban.

In addition to the donations to Priorities USA, The Hill found 14 federal contractors that had contributed a total of $173,250 to Right to Rise. Two had also given to Conservative Solutions PAC, a group that supported Sen. Marco Rubio’s (R-Fla.) bid for president.

One contractor, a Florida utility named Gulf Power Co., gave $44,000 to Right to Rise in March 2015. At the time, the company held more than $1 million in contracts with the Department of Defense.

The Hill asked Gulf Power whether the company was aware it was in violation of the ban and if it believed there was a conflict of interest in politicians benefiting from donations from federal contractors.

Jeff Rogers, a spokesman for the company, responded, “We believe Gulf Power’s right to make the contribution in question is constitutionally protected.”

Suffolk Construction, which since 2008 has received $169.7 million in federal contracts, according to USASpending.­gov, declined multiple requests for comment.

John Fish, the company’s CEO, has been a prolific donor to both parties over the years, though FEC records show he favors Democrats by a wide margin. He’s contributed thousands to President Obama’s White House bids and gave $500 to his 2004 Senate campaign.

Fish’s office did not return a request for comment.

The company itself has mainly funneled money to Republicans. In 2012 it gave $510,000 to Restore Our Future, a super-PAC supporting GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, and $50,000 to another group backing then-Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.).

Campaign finance lawyers say federal contractors that donate to super-PACs are taking a calculated risk that the politically deadlocked FEC will never take action against them.

History suggests they’re correct.

In 2012, a Los Angeles Times investigation found that a number of companies with federal contracts, including Suffolk Construction, had, at that point, contributed $890,000 to Restore Our Future.

None of the federal contractors were ever punished for their super-PAC donations.

A top official who worked for Romney’s now-defunct super-PAC declined to comment. Officials who worked for the Bush and Rubio super-PACs also declined to comment.

There are also loopholes in the federal contractor ban. The biggest allows employees and corporate officers of companies with federal contracts to contribute to any candidate or committee of their choosing. They can also establish super-PACs in the name of their own company.

Another way around the federal contractor ban is colloquially known as the “Chevron loophole” and gives contractors with multiple subsidiaries the freedom to make political contributions through business entities not named on the government contracts.

In 2013 Public Citizen filed a complaint with the FEC against the oil giant Chevron, which had held hundreds of federal contracts worth $1.5 billion. The complaint centered on a $2.5 million contribution it made to the Congressional Leadership Fund, a super-PAC linked to then-Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) that was committed to electing House GOP candidates.

In a 5-1 decision, the FEC ruled that the company’s contribution was legal because the federal contract went to a subsidiary, Chevron USA, which is distinct from Chevron, the entity that made the contribution.

The two Chevron entities share a headquarters in San Ramon, Calif.

A spokeswoman for Chevron declined to comment for this article.

Holman said the extraordinary development is that following the ruling, federal contractors aren’t even bothering to take advantage of the loophole, knowing they are unlikely to face any repercussions.

“Contractors now may circumvent the law either by creating an artificial division within the company for the purpose of making contributions, or even not bother with such machinations and make direct contributions, and can still feel assured they will not be prosecuted by a deadlocked FEC for violating the law,” he told The Hill.

The federal contractor ban survived a legal challenge in 2015, when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia upheld the law in a suit against the FEC.

Writing for the 11-judge panel, Chief Judge Merrick Garland — now President Obama’s nominee to the Supreme Court — wrote that the ban is a necessary defense against corruption.

“The statute was itself the outgrowth of a decades-long congressional effort to prevent corruption and ensure the merit-based administration of the national government,” Garland wrote. “And it was followed by subsequent scandals that led to further legislative refinements, again motivated by concerns over corruption and merit protection.”

Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a campaign finance watchdog that has been working on fighting the influence of money in politics for four decades, said that the current open flouting of the federal contractor ban is emblematic of a much larger problem.

“Every political operative and campaign knows that the FEC will not enforce the campaign finance laws,” Wertheimer said.

“There’s an old line: ‘If you don’t have enforcement of laws, you do not have the laws.’

“And that’s what we’re dealing with.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/285269-exclusive-pro-hillary-group-takes-200k-in-banned-donations
 
looks like it's the Bush, Rubio, and Scott Brown way, too. you keep on going with that Clinton double-standard machine, though.

And you keep on hypocritically defending that which is indefensible and that which you would otherwise condemn...if it wasn't Hillary.
 
And you keep on hypocritically defending that which is indefensible and that which you would otherwise condemn...if it wasn't Hillary.

Look, here's my position on Clinton, for the record. We only get two choices in this election, and NC could well be a swing state so I don't have the luxury of a protest vote. So I've got to vote for Clinton or The Donald.

1. I don't like her. But I like Trump less. Like, a lot less. He's a bully, an ass, a narcissist who stands way, way out from all the other narcissists who run for President, he's unstable and not all that smart.

2. The speaking fees and connections to Wall Street and unsavory regimes give an appearance that she is beholden to certain interests. Trump appears to be beholden to no one but himself - but that almost scares me more (see item 1). There is a big double standard on these speaking fees, as I have pointed out, but the donations to the Clinton Foundation are unprecedented in modern history and I think it is legitimate for people to point them out. However - the Clinton Foundation is transparent about where its money comes from, so at least these issues are up for public debate. Trump will not even release his tax returns, so we don't know what unsavory dealings are in his closet. He has a long history of really shitty treatment of contractors and several corporate bankruptcies. He sources his licensed clothing lines from Bangladeshi sweatshops and cheats people through Trump university. On this point, it's a tie for general unsavoriness in financial dealings.

3. Clinton doesn't lie any more than the average politician, and in this election cycle, she objectively lies less than all her possible opponents. She lies a whole lot less than Trump.

4. I think campaign finance reform is a huge crying need in this country and I don't think Clinton will address it directly because her ties to Wall Street are too tight. Trump is not going to address it either. At least Clinton gives the issue some lip service, whereas Trump has never said anything about campaign finance reform. Further, Clinton will appoint SCOTUS judges who are more likely to uphold any future campaign finance reform efforts, while Trump will put up more Alito types who have no problem with gazillionaires stuffing the political system with as much Super PAC cash as possible. Clinton clearly wins on this point.

5. National security - this is the hardest one. I am against military involvement in the middle east and I believe Hillary is a hawk. On the other hand, Trump's mouth has the potential to start more wars than Clinton ever could, and his policies regarding our NATO allies and Japan have the potential to seriously destabilize things. I don't like either of them on national security, but I think Clinton would at least listen to the experts around her and try to make good decisions even if I disagree with them, whereas Trump is an unpredictable loose cannon with his finger on the nuclear button. That's scary.

6. Immigration - something needs to change on immigration. We have to deal with the problem and show the American people that their leaders take their concerns seriously. I do not agree with the Trumpian rhetoric on immigration. There will have to be a compromise and that compromise will not involve building a giant wall or deporting 12 million people. Clinton has a record of working across the aisle (something that is held against her by Bernie Bots) and actually could get something done on this with a divided Congress, especially if the election finally shows Republicans that doubling down on anti-Latino rhetoric is not the way to win. Trump with a GOP congress could get really, really ugly on the immigration front, and it might create a situation that seriously harms this country.

7. Police/drug war reform is a big issue for me. Trump is a big fat authoritarian. Clinton obviously has a bad history/legacy from Bill here but she's shifted with the rest of the Democratic party on this issue. Trump believes in smashing people who act up or defy authority. Clearly Clinton is the better choice here.

I could add some other items but that's probably enough for now. My eyes are wide open on Clinton. I don't think she's an angel and I fully understand her past. But I'm not voting Jill Stein and giving Donald Trump a chance to run this country.
 
923

RE #2: - She was a rock star politician. That's what the going rate was for speeches. If Bill Clinton can shame awful governments into giving millions to spend on HIV drugs and tens of millions of malaria nets, good for him. As 923 said, every penny that comes into the Clinton foundation is publicly accounted for and accessible if the doubters wanted to see.

If there was a single pay for play, it would have been found. Investigating the Clintons has been a multi-million dollar annual business for over a quarter of a century. Someone would have found something. A disgruntled employee would have come forward.

This is the one area where they can't do much in the gray areas. Everyone is looking 27/7/365 (or 366 this year).

RE #4- I think she'll appoint justices who will overturn CU given the chance. Congress won't let her change much. Maybe there can be some limits. Probably the best we can hope for is full disclosure for all PACs, SuperPACs and other organizations. I wish they could get to federally funded elections for Congress and POTUS.
 
923

RE #2: - She was a rock star politician. That's what the going rate was for speeches. If Bill Clinton can shame awful governments into giving millions to spend on HIV drugs and tens of millions of malaria nets, good for him. As 923 said, every penny that comes into the Clinton foundation is publicly accounted for and accessible if the doubters wanted to see.

If there was a single pay for play, it would have been found. Investigating the Clintons has been a multi-million dollar annual business for over a quarter of a century. Someone would have found something. A disgruntled employee would have come forward.

This is the one area where they can't do much in the gray areas. Everyone is looking 27/7/365 (or 366 this year).

RE #4- I think she'll appoint justices who will overturn CU given the chance. Congress won't let her change much. Maybe there can be some limits. Probably the best we can hope for is full disclosure for all PACs, SuperPACs and other organizations. I wish they could get to federally funded elections for Congress and POTUS.

Why do you continue to insist that the amount she was paid for the speeches is what matters? It's WHO gave her the money that invites criticism.

What she did wasn't illegal, but it sure as shit doesn't look like she will be the champion of the downtrodden against Wall St.
 
Back
Top