Good, you've made that point, as have others. I don't disagree Grobe's last 2 years, and the year before the Music City Bowl year were awful years. I said I think he stayed loyal to avg to below avg assistants for too long. He didn't replace talented assistant coaches that left for other programs with talent. I'm sure he'd change that if he could. He's at fault for those 3 years, but when comparing an entire 13 year career, I'd still take those 10 other seasons and what he did for our school. Nobody wanted to play us and we were very close to playing in a lot of bowl games. Maybe swap a few Vandy games during their best years, @ Nebraska, @ stanford, Purdue, for a few Towson's and Delewares, and we are talking 6-7 bowl games for Grobe.
John Wolford was recruited by Grobe's staff. He's the best Wake QB, statistically speaking, we've ever had.
Duke Ejiofor, Wendall Dunn, Cam Serigne, Grant Dawson, marquel Lee, Ryan Janvion, Tyler Harris were all starters and impact players on Bowl winning teams, all Grobe Recruits. His later classes had way too many misses, but I disagree the cupboard was totally bare.
His last five years have an under .380 winning percentage and had he stayed it would have been seven years under .350. Sorry, he many more bad years than good ones. Two of his three year peak were grossly underachieving seasons.