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Bur damn if he didn't show up and make his presence known anytime there was even a hint of a civil rights issue.
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Bur damn if he didn't show up and make his presence known anytime there was even a hint of a civil rights issue.
RaleighDevil
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I couldn't have said it better. He was a disgrace to the office.
http://www.cato.org/blog/eric-holders-tenure
Holder’s damage to race relations may be even worse than his contempt for Congress, however, as his management of the Justice Department and use of its powers betray a desire to use the law to advance a dubious view of social justice. For example, he sued fire and police departments to enforce hiring quotas and inflamed social tensions with his pronouncements on Stand Your Ground laws. He blamed banks for not lending enough to members of racial minority groups and other banks for “predatory lending” that led to disproportionate bankruptcies among those same groups. Ironically, he’s even challenged school choice programs, which overwhelmingly help poor black kids acquire better educations.
Still, it must be said that Holder was a “uniter not a divider” on one front: under his reign, the Justice Department has suffered a record number of unanimous losses at the Supreme Court. In the last three terms alone, the government has suffered 13 such defeats – a rate double President Clinton’s and triple President Bush’s – in areas of law ranging from criminal procedure to property rights to securities regulation to religious freedom. By not just pushing but breaking through the envelope of plausible legal argument, Attorney General Holder has done his all to expand federal (especially executive) power and contract individual liberty beyond any constitutional recognition.
Eric Holder will not be missed by those who support the rule of law.
http://www.cato.org/blog/eric-holders-tenure
Holder’s damage to race relations may be even worse than his contempt for Congress, however, as his management of the Justice Department and use of its powers betray a desire to use the law to advance a dubious view of social justice. For example, he sued fire and police departments to enforce hiring quotas and inflamed social tensions with his pronouncements on Stand Your Ground laws. He blamed banks for not lending enough to members of racial minority groups and other banks for “predatory lending” that led to disproportionate bankruptcies among those same groups. Ironically, he’s even challenged school choice programs, which overwhelmingly help poor black kids acquire better educations.
Still, it must be said that Holder was a “uniter not a divider” on one front: under his reign, the Justice Department has suffered a record number of unanimous losses at the Supreme Court. In the last three terms alone, the government has suffered 13 such defeats – a rate double President Clinton’s and triple President Bush’s – in areas of law ranging from criminal procedure to property rights to securities regulation to religious freedom. By not just pushing but breaking through the envelope of plausible legal argument, Attorney General Holder has done his all to expand federal (especially executive) power and contract individual liberty beyond any constitutional recognition.
Eric Holder will not be missed by those who support the rule of law.
19deac92
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Good riddance.
Eric Holder was lynched by Issa and others. He screwed the pooch re:Wall Street, but the reality is none of the many Issa-led persecutions proved Holder did anything wrong. It was proven that he had nothing to do with F&F.
If not for the illegal actions of the previous Administration and cowardice of the House GOP and some in the Senate of both parties, GITMO would be closed.
If not for Holder the neo-Jim Crow voter laws would have been left alone. If anyone thinks the voter laws passed in the south and other places weren't dripping in classism and racism, it's because you are willfully blind.
92, of all people, I think you would be for killing those who are actively training, funding and planning the killing of American GIs. If that person happens to be an American traitor. so be it. He declared war on America and carried out attacks. He is no different than killing OBL.
If not for the illegal actions of the previous Administration and cowardice of the House GOP and some in the Senate of both parties, GITMO would be closed.
If not for Holder the neo-Jim Crow voter laws would have been left alone. If anyone thinks the voter laws passed in the south and other places weren't dripping in classism and racism, it's because you are willfully blind.
92, of all people, I think you would be for killing those who are actively training, funding and planning the killing of American GIs. If that person happens to be an American traitor. so be it. He declared war on America and carried out attacks. He is no different than killing OBL.
DeaconCav06
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RJ, did or did not Obama promise to close GITMO?
At what point does Obama actually have to take responsibility for his own failures as a President?
At what point does Obama actually have to take responsibility for his own failures as a President?
19deac92
You are a meathead.
RJ:
Eric Holder has been a disgraceful AG all by himself.
Eric Holder has been a disgraceful AG all by himself.
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Poor word choice.
Nice racial reference, rj
TuffaloDeac10
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What exactly is the failure with Guantanamo? Walk through it. The President didn't ban transferring detainees to military bases in the US. Congress did. We have a (dumb) system with divided powers. If you want to criticize Obama for making promises he can't keep, that's fair but it's not like closing the prison at Guantanamo was ever in Obama's power to do or that he fucked up a winnable situation there.
The congress would not allow it. They were cowards. The POTUS doesn't have the power to unilaterally do that and you know it.
Other than not prosecuting Wall Street (which we agree is a huge failure) give me specifics.
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Defending summary execution of a US citizen without due process. Don't even need to go beyond that one to immediately label Holder as a disgrace to the office.
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I don't think it was a failure. I just want to know when, if ever, something has been Obama's fault.
Think he has done a lot of great things but eventually you have to stop blaming the guy that came before you. Will Hillary get to keep blaming Bush?
BillBrasky
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Yep, Eric Holder is the same level of coward that his boss. Deuces.
If it's the former I guarantee you it will be to represent a sector of industry that he's chosen to go easy on as AG...
TuffaloDeac10
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Gotta separate your two thoughts here cause there's a lot going on.
Here are some things that are Obama's fault (IMO): Droning Anwar Al-Awlaki without trial, killing Al-Awlaki's son without a trial, hiring a loser like Geithner for the most important job in his first term, not taking SIGTARP's findings seriously at any point, signalling that he wanted to do a Grand Bargain over the debt ceiling in 2011 instead of holding firm for a clean increase, not filling all the fucking seats on the Fed Board of Governors, and there are probably some others but those are the big ones that stick out to me.
As for blaming Bush, the things Bush did will always be Bush's fault. Some of those things are fixable and have been fixed (OBL is dead now), some are fixable and have not been fixed (the labor market still blows), and others are broken forever (some detainees are un-triable because torture). The things W broke forever, it's on Bush that they're broken forever. And then some things require congressional action to fix and it's important to remember that congress is composed of adults with free will and agency and not some thing that Obama can force, trick, or cajole into acting in a way it doesn't want to.
So it is either Bush's fault or Congress's fault. Everybody got their talking points? Okay, hope and change on three...BREAK!
TuffaloDeac10
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Can you even read, bro?
WakeandBake
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Huh?