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How many more school shootings before the NRA allows common sense?

Demonwolverine said:
Weird how that worked, wasn't it? To the dismay of liberals, Obama did very little to restrict guns, yet rural America thought he did everything. It's almost as though conservative media created a boogeyman. Kind of like how democrats were mad that Obama was constantly drone striking, while the right was complaining that he wasn't doing anything to combat terrorism overseas. One side seems like they're getting false information. As much as I love Obama, like all presidents/people, the man had faults; which is what made it so strange that conservative media felt the need to make stuff up.
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well they never got around to actual analysis when they were too busy trying to get his birth certificate and deciphering how he had the audacity to wear a tan suit
 
Obama could have pushed more on gun control. He also couldn't have done everything the right says "why didn't you do this during the X number of days the Democrats had a super-majority when Obummer was president?" because there wasn't enough time to. But sure he could have prioritized gun control in that limited time if he wanted to and tried to move it all the way up the list.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Obama could have pushed more on gun control. He also couldn't have done everything the right says "why didn't you do this during the X number of days the Democrats had a super-majority when Obummer was president?" because there wasn't enough time to. But sure he could have prioritized gun control in that limited time if he wanted to and tried to move it all the way up the list.
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also - supposedly, the super majority lasted from January 2009 to February 2010... Sandy Hook happened December 2012

There was gun control legislation introduced in 2013 and it never got out of the Senate
 
Slightly off topic but is the January 2009 to February 2010 supermajority inclusive of the period where Kennedy was sick and wasn't actually able to vote?
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Slightly off topic but is the January 2009 to February 2010 supermajority inclusive of the period where Kennedy was sick and wasn't actually able to vote?
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yes, there was never really a super majority due to the kennedy out sick and franken's seat being challenged by pubs (took him seven months to take office)
 
Thanks. I had forgotten about Byrd's absence.

It's amazing how much revisionist history about Obama's first two years happened at the time. That's when it became extremely clear that conservative media lived in another world.
 
Yeah I mean the part that always gets me is that whenever there's a discussion of policy that Democrats are now in favor for the comment from some Republicans comes back to "why didn't they deal with it when they controlled everything during Obama's first term." Sure maybe more could've been accomplished than actually was, but not everything could have been done in that time period even if Obama and Democrats wanted to.
 
within a month of Sandy Hook Obama had signed 23 executive orders and proposed 12 pieces of legislation with regards to gun control

#notfakenews
 
XO list:

Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make itwidely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
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DOA proposals:

he White House's proposed congressional actions were these:

- Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.
- Reinstating and strengthening the federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (AWB 1994) that expired in 2004.
- Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.
- Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement.
- Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers" who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else.
- Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
- Confirming President Obama's nominee for director of the (ATF).
- Eliminating a restriction that requires the ATF to allow the importation of weapons that are more than 50 years old.
- Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks.
- Provide additional $20 million to help expand the system that tracks violent deaths across the nation from 18 states to 50 states.
- Providing $30 million in grants to states to help schools develop emergency response plans.
- Providing financing to expand mental health programs for young people.
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Screamindemon3 said:
Obviously worked
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well the legislation was all blocked and executive orders can only go so far

this is just in a response to the thought that "obama didn't do anything" with regards to gun control
 
Just FYI, Executive Actions are different than Executive Orders. Actions are proposals. Orders are legally binding directions.
 
if you exclude gun nuts, most of those should be pretty safe bets with perhaps the ban on assault weapons
 
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