"I would hope that this episode teaches an important lesson - the self restricting, honor code way of doing business is not the successful model.
This is part and parcel of why honor societies and cultures are ground out by more successful mercantile or win at all costs societies and cultures.
Power, money, savvy, and ruthlessness wins in the real world.
It's no different than the American Legal System - right and wrong have nothing to do with the "Law". The "Law" is a certain set of rules and those that learn to skirt the law for their gain advance in the game of life. Those that follow the "spirit" of the rules fall behind. It just like that in business or politics.
Show me the tangible reward for being the more ethical person or entity and I will show you a grave."
This was written by Lumberpack3 on pack pride. Sadly, this is just the way the world works.
This is all wrong. I'd prefer to do things the right way, and not cheating or having anything "fake" is certainly the right way. Makes it much sweeter when you win, especially against people who cheat.
On another note, there may not be sanctions by the NCAA, but we can all do our part by talking a lot of shit to UNC fans about their fake school. For the ones who didn't go there, it can be pointed out they root for a fake school they didn't go to.
Oh you're absolutely right. I just want their idiocy on public display.
The problem with people that are too dumb to get it is that they are too dumb to get that they don't get it.
What about those of us that were smart enough to know that nothing was ever going to happen? Being right this often is exhausting.
What about those of us that were smart enough to know that nothing was ever going to happen? Being right this often is exhausting.
Have you ever considered being right about something? Everybody needs a change of pace. It's not too late...but it's getting close.
What about those of us that were smart enough to know that nothing was ever going to happen? Being right this often is exhausting.
Well, I guess if you have been going around saying "hell yeah we cheated, but the NCAA can't do a damn thing about it", then congrats, you were right.
In all honesty, are you of the belief that nothing happened with regard to sham classes? That it was all just "fake news". Or are you more in the "well, everybody does it" camp? Or do you just not give a shit? That winning is the most important thing, and that you just do whatever it takes to win, and then just say "fuck you", if anyone calls you out on it?
The reality is that no matter if the NCAA ended up with jurisdiction over whatever happened at UNC, this saga has created a HUGE black-eye for the school, especially on the academic side of things; and today's ruling did nothing to eliminate that. So yeah, the sports teams didn't get punished, but the huge shit stain on the school still remains.
I told you they would walk
The ACC is just a disgusting conference now. Louisville and Miami getting caught up in the FBI investigation, UNC getting away with decades of fraud with no penalty. I can't believe Wake is associated with these dingbats. I'm with Brasky on this one. It is time for college athletics to either go away or to reform so drastically that it is almost unrecognizable from what it is now. This whole system is a joke and a fraud on taxpayers, alumni, students, professors, and on the players themselves.
In all honesty, are you of the belief that nothing happened with regard to sham classes? That it was all just "fake news". Or are you more in the "well, everybody does it" camp? Or do you just not give a shit? That winning is the most important thing, and that you just do whatever it takes to win, and then just say "fuck you", if anyone calls you out on it?
In all seriousness, I would like to get a feel for what your take on this whole thing has been.