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Middle East: Saudis Murder & Dismember Washington Post Contributor

Trump, like Putin and all dictators, are skilled at straight up lying. Whatever is said is more than likely the opposite of whatever is true.


Thx Pubs for enabling his reign to be ongoing.
 
He's not a skilled liar. Prolific? Absolutely. It's obvious to anyone paying attention when he is lying.

What has happened is the dumbing down of America. Many of our schools have gone to shit. Especially in places that are now clearly all in trump world. More people should be talking about that.
 
Trump feels left out. His buddies are playing games without him.
 
And dolt 45 gave a great big F U to South Korean - USA military drills. Republicans and their enabling really are the worst.
 
Protesters are trying to storm our embassy in Baghdad.
 
Definitely time for some hearings. Pompeo will probably just refuse to appear because executive privilege witch hunt Libs blah.

Also it needs to be said that this militia group we bombed the shit out of is officially part of the Iraqi army. Granted there was a rocket attack that killed an American, but possibly we could have considered that bombing the army of the allegedly allied country in which our troops are based might raise tensions a hair.
 
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Deacon923 said:
Definitely time for some hearings. Pompeo will probably just refuse to appear because executive privilege witch hunt Libs blah.

Also it needs to be said that this militia group we bombed the shit out of is officially part of the Iraqi army. Granted there was a rocket attack that killed an American, but possibly we could have considered that bombing the army of the allegedly allied country in which our troops are based might raise tensions a hair.
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Also needs to be said that pulling out of the nuclear deal was a catalyst for the situation spiraling out of control.
 
Newenglanddeac said:
Also needs to be said that pulling out of the nuclear deal was a catalyst for the situation spiraling out of control.
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Good point.
Trump sucks at being a tough guy. He wants to be one so bad, but he generally picks the wrong targets.

While foreign policy/military operations are too complex for simple comparisons, let's try to think about what would happen if the tables were turned. Let's say that a group of Marines based in Japan went rogue and murdered a Japanese citizen (this is not far fetched. It has happened several times). Would we be OK if Japan bombed our base in Okinawa in response?

I'm just saying that here we had a situation where a part of the Iraqi army apparently went rogue, probably at the direction of Iran, and bombed an American base. That's bad. But it seems like instead of calling in an airstrike as a first step, there are a lot of different potential responses such as demanding that the host country detain and prosecute those responsible, or disband the rogue unit, or whatever. Instead Trump and Pompeo go for the immediate tough guy response of bombing, without any thought about how that might be received by the population of the host country.
 
Deacon923 said:
Good point.
Trump sucks at being a tough guy. He wants to be one so bad, but he generally picks the wrong targets.

While foreign policy/military operations are too complex for simple comparisons, let's try to think about what would happen if the tables were turned. Let's say that a group of Marines based in Japan went rogue and murdered a Japanese citizen (this is not far fetched. It has happened several times). Would we be OK if Japan bombed our base in Okinawa in response?

I'm just saying that here we had a situation where a part of the Iraqi army apparently went rogue, probably at the direction of Iran, and bombed an American base. That's bad. But it seems like instead of calling in an airstrike as a first step, there are a lot of different potential responses such as demanding that the host country detain and prosecute those responsible, or disband the rogue unit, or whatever. Instead Trump and Pompeo go for the immediate tough guy response of bombing, without any thought about how that might be received by the population of the host country.
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Well said.
 
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