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New Zealand’s Mosque Massacre

WFcatamount22 said:
When we look at mass shootings from the US to France and Norweigh, and now New Zealand the only logical take away you can have us regardless of varying degrees of gun control the problem will still exist.
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This is not the hill you want to die on, rube.
 
It's "you're" rube, and a lot more keep dying in the US to protect your right to be in a state militia.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
The whole point is varying degrees. New Zealand has 55 gun deaths in 2015. (1.24 per 100k people) America had 38658 in 2015 (11.8 per 100k people). NZ’s death gun rate was at least half as low as every single American state in 2015.

New Zealand has strong gun laws. America’s are basically non existent.
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This is classic leftist bullshitery. Out of the 38,658 only 13K of those were homicides, out of those 13K, 11K were gang related. So if you don't join a gang and don't kill yourself there is no gun problem in this country.

Also side note New Zealand has lax gun laws, so you are arguing against yourself.
 
effective gun homicide rate in the United States is .6 out of 100K. AKA non issue. We need to focus on radicalization and how to stop it, not the guns.
 
sailordeac said:
he is insane, insane people say insane things
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Has it been reported that he is insane? Like, on meds for an illness? Or no?

Let’s say he was insane, chemically speaking. He still massacred people based on his politically influenced beliefs of anti-immigration and anti-Islam which was influenced by Donald Trump and Candace Owens, by name. See also: MAGA bomber, coast guard would-be killer, Pittsburgh Synogogue shooter, etc. Seems as though the common thread to igniting their fuse are the inflammatory things said by the Right’s leaders. That’s a problem. As is mental illness. Both can be true at the same time.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Also side note New Zealand has lax gun laws, so you are arguing against yourself.
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https://www.vox.com/2019/3/15/18267093/new-zealand-gun-control-laws-christchurch-mosque-shooting

"New Zealand’s gun laws are strict compared to America’s.

New Zealand has more than 1.2 million civilian-owned firearms — about one gun for every four people, according to Small Arms Survey, which provides estimates for gun ownership around the world. That puts the country in the top 20 nations in the world for civilian gun ownership (though still far behind the US, which has more than one gun for every person). Still, New Zealand generally has very low levels of gun violence — likely due, in part, to its restrictions on firearms. But because of the remaining gaps and Friday’s terrorist attacks, there are already calls to strengthen the country’s laws."
 
DDA said:
Has it been reported that he is insane? Like, on meds for an illness? Or no?

Let’s say he was insane, chemically speaking. He still massacred people based on his politically influenced beliefs of anti-immigration and anti-Islam which was influenced by Donald Trump and Candace Owens, by name. See also: MAGA bomber, coast guard would-be killer, Pittsburgh Synogogue shooter, etc. Seems as though the common thread to igniting their fuse are the inflammatory things said by the Right’s leaders. That’s a problem. As is mental illness. Both can be true at the same time.
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I would put big money down that he was on SSRIs.
 
DDA said:
Has it been reported that he is insane? Like, on meds for an illness? Or no?

Let’s say he was insane, chemically speaking. He still massacred people based on his politically influenced beliefs of anti-immigration and anti-Islam which was influenced by Donald Trump and Candace Owens, by name. See also: MAGA bomber, coast guard would-be killer, Pittsburgh Synogogue shooter, etc. Seems as though the common thread to igniting their fuse are the inflammatory things said by the Right’s leaders. That’s a problem. As is mental illness. Both can be true at the same time.
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Pittsburgh shooter hated Trump.
 
I mean ok? Trump and Owens still motivated him. Maybe if they didn’t say the shit they say this never would’ve happened. But it did and they fueled his hate. Maybe that should be called out and not defended.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Pittsburgh shooter hated Trump.
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