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Guilford College has a 330lb defensive tackle and 4 offensive lineman 300lbs or over. Guilford College is DIII and typically a bad DIII program. If size was the main thing in determining a players ability to play at the FBS level, those guys wouldn’t be at Guilford.
That was Jim Caldwell’s big deal when he came here. He wanted 300+ lb OL & wanted all of them to bench over 300 just like FSU did. Trouble was they were all fat blob 300 lb’s. Out of shape & puking on the field during games.
Grobe came in, whipped them in to shape (down to 285 or so), quicker feet and the cut block and orbit plays started working.
 
That was Jim Caldwell’s big deal when he came here. He wanted 300+ lb OL & wanted all of them to bench over 300 just like FSU did. Trouble was they were all fat blob 300 lb’s. Out of shape & puking on the field during games.
Grobe came in, whipped them in to shape (down to 285 or so), quicker feet and the cut block and orbit plays started working.
True, that, but Jim Caldwell did get them in the door for Grobe.
 
That was Jim Caldwell’s big deal when he came here. He wanted 300+ lb OL & wanted all of them to bench over 300 just like FSU did. Trouble was they were all fat blob 300 lb’s. Out of shape & puking on the field during games.
Grobe came in, whipped them in to shape (down to 285 or so), quicker feet and the cut block and orbit plays started working.
If Caldwell’s 300 pounders could not bench over 300 pounds, than that would be pathetic. I get what you’re saying but benching 300 isn’t hard for O/D linemen.
 
If Caldwell’s 300 pounders could not bench over 300 pounds, than that would be pathetic. I get what you’re saying but benching 300 isn’t hard for O/D linemen.
That is certainly true today but back in the early 90’s when Caldwell arrived, we did not have that many in the weight lifting board going over 300 on the bench. He put emphasis on that and pointed to what FloridaState with Bowden was doing. As I stated, they got bigger, but sloppier and had no speed. It took a couple years too long (just like BzMan & Manning since Well-Man hired him) but he finally got fired with a 26-63/12-52 ACC record and Grobe shaped them up almost immediately. (6-5/3-5) the next season after Caldwell’s 2-9/1-7
 
That is certainly true today but back in the early 90’s when Caldwell arrived, we did not have that many in the weight lifting board going over 300 on the bench. He put emphasis on that and pointed to what FloridaState with Bowden was doing. As I stated, they got bigger, but sloppier and had no speed. It took a couple years too long (just like BzMan & Manning since Well-Man hired him) but he finally got fired with a 26-63/12-52 ACC record and Grobe shaped them up almost immediately. (6-5/3-5) the next season after Caldwell’s 2-9/1-7
The beginning of this post, not surprisingly, is pure horseshit.
 
Most WRs and CBs can bench 300. In the 90s and today
12-52 ACC record tells me we didn’t have many who could lift nor run fast from 1993-2000. Grobe changed that thank goodness when he got here.
Caldwell got some good recruits every now & then but didn’t know what to do with them as his record shows.
 
Wake is a difficult place. Caldwell went to the NFL and did ok. Groh was COY twice at UVa and also fairly successful in the NFL.
 
Wake is a difficult place. Caldwell went to the NFL and did ok. Groh was COY twice at UVa and also fairly successful in the NFL.
Hard to compare the NFL and college. Caldwell is a good football coach. That works in the NFL when you have all good football players and you’re not in charge of finding and signing them. If you can’t recruit and develop then it doesn’t matter how good of a coach you are.
 
Hard to compare the NFL and college. Caldwell is a good football coach. That works in the NFL when you have all good football players and you’re not in charge of finding and signing them. If you can’t recruit and develop then it doesn’t matter how good of a coach you are.
The thing is that it wasn’t really recruiting because Grobe took his guys and won. And he did make the OL specifically lose a ton of weight.
 
That guy will be around 50% heavier than any D-line guy he goes against. So even if he isn't that skilled, he will have that 50% edge in mass. Not trivial. Fattened up Wake guys back then were approximately equal in weight. So poor conditioning and technique left them at a disadvantage.
 
Hard to compare the NFL and college. Caldwell is a good football coach. That works in the NFL when you have all good football players and you’re not in charge of finding and signing them. If you can’t recruit and develop then it doesn’t matter how good of a coach you are.
True, but Groh had a nice 10 years or so with UVa. I think it's easier at a state school than at Wake to build a program, but UVa had about as terrible of a history as we did. I'll never forget our 66-21 W in Charlottesville. 21-0 in first 5 minutes.
 
When Welsh took over the HC job in 1982, the UVA/WF rivalry was about .500. WF beat UVA in 1983, and then, UVA beat WF 17 straight times. FWIW, WF's current longest winning streak against any ACC opponent is UVA. Deacs have won 5 straight over UVA.
 
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Stone Blanton, starting LB for South Carolina in the portal. 4 star recruit two years ago.
 
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