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Non-Political Coronavirus Thread

2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Right, it is all how you look at it. We've had 1,000 people in NC die of the Rona, so say 1,000 people in the last 4.5 months. In every typical month in NC, we have 1,600 people die of cancer, 1,500 die from heart disease, 500 die from accidents, 460 from chronic lower respiratory diseases, AND 425 from stroke. Not to mention pneumonia, suicide, Alzheimers, diabetes, etc. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/northcarolina/northcarolina.htm ). So yes, it is a lot of people dying from Covid, and yes most of the other diseases are not contagious (though the accidents do affect other people). But in the grand scheme of things, does the amount of deaths warrant the response? Significantly more people die of heart disease, but again we are not mandating healthy heart living.
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well where you're missing the mark is we're only like 3% of the way through the pandemic, and exponential math comes at you fast. So make your 1,000 people 30,000 people in 5 months if you do nothing. Some people can do math and look forward and project. Others compare apples to oranges comparisons like you're doing here and really really fuck up to the tune of 29,000 dead people.

We as a country flipped our shit over 6,000 dead people in New York and spent 2 decades carpet bombing the middle east as a response. Ho-humming a million extra dead people from corona seems odd
 
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Letting her rip and opening up the schools doesn't work if you mix it with a federal government response that can't ensure the nurses won't run out of masks and get sick at alarming rates, and also we wouldn't be able to produce the drugs needed fast enough, both of which would prevent people from getting care and increase that death rate up from .3% to 2-3%. It's a complex analysis that's required to make a decision. 1,000 people have died so far vs 200 car crashes is state school rube analysis. clean it up.
 
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birdman said:
You are confusing scientific journal authors with news media reporters who wrote the headline and the guy who copy and pasted the news article headline.
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So out of the millions of headlines to copy and paste, you just randomly chose that one?
 
stugotz said:
well where you're missing the mark is we're only like 3% of the way through the pandemic, and exponential math comes at you fast. So make your 1,000 people 30,000 people in 5 months if you do nothing. Some people can do math and look forward and project. Others compare apples to oranges comparisons like you're doing here and really really fuck up to the tune of 29,000 dead people.

We as a country flipped our shit over 6,000 dead people in New York and spent 2 decades carpet bombing the middle east as a response. Ho-humming a million extra dead people from corona seems odd
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Nobody is doing nothing. How are the kids going to school with masks on any different than the people going to Walmart and Lowes and their offices with masks on, other than that by nature they are less likely to contract and/or spread it?
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Nobody is doing nothing. How are the kids going to school with masks on any different than the people going to Walmart and Lowes and their offices with masks on, other than that by nature they are less likely to contract and/or spread it?
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a lot has to do with the constant exposure from recirculated air in a smaller room vs. shorter visits to a much larger space with very different air circulation patterns
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Nobody is doing nothing. How are the kids going to school with masks on any different than the people going to Walmart and Lowes and their offices with masks on, other than that by nature they are less likely to contract and/or spread it?
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Walmart and Lowes you're in an out in 30 minutes. This gets passed from person to person based on the length of time someone is breathing the same infected air. So people, whether it be kids or adults are likely going to be more likely to contract it when they're sitting in the same space for 8 hours indoors. It's like you need a thousand virus particles in order to get infected, and you breathe in like 10 particles a minute.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Nobody is doing nothing. How are the kids going to school with masks on any different than the people going to Walmart and Lowes and their offices with masks on, other than that by nature they are less likely to contract and/or spread it?
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It's like the difference between having sex with my wife and having sex with your mom. One takes about three minutes, the other takes hours, which exposes me to a lot of diseases.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
a lot has to do with the constant exposure from recirculated air in a smaller room vs. shorter visits to a much larger space with very different air circulation patterns
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Wut? I typically go to Walmart and sit for like 7 hours straight, use the exercise equipment, eat my lunch off surfaces the I trust other people to clean and some times share my food with other shoppers.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Nobody is doing nothing. How are the kids going to school with masks on any different than the people going to Walmart and Lowes and their offices with masks on, other than that by nature they are less likely to contract and/or spread it?
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There are a lot of people doing nothing. People in Winston should drive down Burke Street around 10-11 this weekend and check out Vintage Sofa Bar. You’d think there wasn’t a deadly pandemic by how many people are there.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
a lot has to do with the constant exposure from recirculated air in a smaller room vs. shorter visits to a much larger space with very different air circulation patterns
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I've got multiple commercial/hospital grade air cleaners that each circulate and clean over 4,000 square feet every 15 minutes, they cost about $500 each. These are not insurmountable issues when talking about the budgets involved, the education of a generation of kids, and the impact to society and the economy as a whole.
 
Our hospital has nearly double the number of COVID patients admitted that we had at the beginning of this week.

The next month is going to be ugly.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I've got multiple commercial/hospital grade air cleaners that each circulate and clean over 4,000 square feet every 15 minutes, they cost about $500 each. These are not insurmountable issues when talking about the budgets involved, the education of a generation of kids, and the impact to society and the economy as a whole.
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Do you have a child to send to school? Because it doesn't sound like you have been around any children who go to school.
 
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BeachBumDeac said:
Our hospital has nearly double the number of COVID patients admitted that we had at the beginning of this week.

The next month is going to be ugly.
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We are tapped out here in Georgia. Multiple hospitals with diversion status, numbers started creeping up about two weeks ago. Not just the cities anymore either, rural hospitals with a lot less capacity looking for beds including hundreds of miles away now.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I've got multiple commercial/hospital grade air cleaners that each circulate and clean over 4,000 square feet every 15 minutes, they cost about $500 each. These are not insurmountable issues when talking about the budgets involved, the education of a generation of kids, and the impact to society and the economy as a whole.
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okay, and maybe that's a solution

but it also shows that you understand the difference between a 30 minute visit to a big box store with 50' ceilings and six hours in a 400 square foot elementary school classroom
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
okay, and maybe that's a solution

but it also shows that you understand the difference between a 30 minute visit to a big box store with 50' ceilings and six hours in a 400 square foot elementary school classroom
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Yes i understand the difference, but it is not an insurmountable difference with a little bit of effort, especially in light of the #science and #expert statistics as they relate to kids. The current attitude of throwing up our hands and saying there is no possible solution, shut it all down is a lazy, bullshit move. Relatively easy, safe solutions are available, but our school boards are too concerned with covering their own ass instead of objectively looking at the situation. It is the same milkwich snowday analysis played out over an entire school year.
 
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