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North Carolina Proposes an Electric Car Tax

Tesla owners are outraged I'm sure. How will they afford the new tax?


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EatLeadCommie said:
Tesla owners are outraged I'm sure. How will they afford the new tax?


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actually the NC General Assembly is also trying to ban out of state automobile sales, which directly targets the Tesla so there's that too

A legislative proposal, backed by the N.C. Automobile Dealers Association, would make it illegal for Tesla, or any other car maker, to bypass dealerships and sell directly in the state. The proposal cuts at the heart of Tesla’s business model: selling luxury cars over the phone or Internet and then delivering them to the front door of high-net-worth customers.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/05/09/2883125/law-would-stop-tesla-electric.html#storylink=cpy

free market! less government intrusion!
 
DeacHawk said:
actually the NC General Assembly is also trying to ban out of state automobile sales, which directly targets the Tesla so there's that too

A legislative proposal, backed by the N.C. Automobile Dealers Association, would make it illegal for Tesla, or any other car maker, to bypass dealerships and sell directly in the state. The proposal cuts at the heart of Tesla’s business model: selling luxury cars over the phone or Internet and then delivering them to the front door of high-net-worth customers.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/05/09/2883125/law-would-stop-tesla-electric.html#storylink=cpy

free market! less government intrusion!
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Tesla is being targeted nationwide on that front though...

Those greedy Dealers and their sales henchmen want a piece of the action. F*ckers
 
DeacHawk said:
actually the NC General Assembly is also trying to ban out of state automobile sales, which directly targets the Tesla so there's that too

A legislative proposal, backed by the N.C. Automobile Dealers Association, would make it illegal for Tesla, or any other car maker, to bypass dealerships and sell directly in the state. The proposal cuts at the heart of Tesla’s business model: selling luxury cars over the phone or Internet and then delivering them to the front door of high-net-worth customers.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/05/09/2883125/law-would-stop-tesla-electric.html#storylink=cpy

free market! less government intrusion!
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That part is basically all you need to know. Dealers don't want direct to publics sales, and so they're getting their buddies to write laws so they can't. The good ole boy system is much stronger than any democracy.
 
DeacHawk said:
actually the NC General Assembly is also trying to ban out of state automobile sales, which directly targets the Tesla so there's that too

A legislative proposal, backed by the N.C. Automobile Dealers Association, would make it illegal for Tesla, or any other car maker, to bypass dealerships and sell directly in the state. The proposal cuts at the heart of Tesla’s business model: selling luxury cars over the phone or Internet and then delivering them to the front door of high-net-worth customers.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/05/09/2883125/law-would-stop-tesla-electric.html#storylink=cpy

free market! less government intrusion!
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That's fucking stupid. Is it a dealership lobby or is the state POed about lost sales tax revenue on the 2 or 3 Teslas that are sold to people in their state?
 
EatLeadCommie said:
That's fucking stupid. Is it a dealership lobby or is the state POed about lost sales tax revenue on the 2 or 3 Teslas that are sold to people in their state?
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It's the car dealership association realizing they are going to be out of jobs soon. You can drop ship cars just like anything else, and with the information available online, we no longer need them. And the NC government is trying to get them to build a production plant in-state.

It's self-preservation for them not stupid.
 
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It's the car dealership association realizing they are going to be out of jobs soon. You can drop ship cars just like anything else, and with the information available online, we no longer need them. And the NC government is trying to get them to build a production plant in-state.

It's self-preservation for them not stupid.
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I understand that, but how much business are they really losing as a result of this? I would think it would be a negligible amount, if that.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
I understand that, but how much business are they really losing as a result of this? I would think it would be a negligible amount, if that.
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Not much now. They'd lose a ton if online ordering was allowed. Dealership rules are pretty ridiculous and territorial.
 
Interesting. One would think that the auto industry, much like every other industry, is eventually going to need to adapt to the Internet marketplace


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NPR story on car dealership laws:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/19/172402376/why-buying-a-car-never-changes

If I remember correctly, it's a shorter version of this Planet Money story:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/12/171814201/episode-435-why-buying-a-car-is-so-awful

In survey after survey, people rank buying a car as one of their least favorite experiences.
Why hasn't anyone figured out a better way to sell cars? Why can't you just go to a car store and shop for cars from a bunch of different manufacturers? Why don't cars have real price tags — with real prices, that people actually pay?
Today on the show: Why car buying is so unpleasant, and what your local legislators may be doing to keep it that way.
 
Instead of an electric car tax, I'd prefer to see a slight increase in the property tax rate for all automobiles.

That would answer the shortfall of highway funds without creating a disincentive for NC drivers to become more oil independent.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Interesting. One would think that the auto industry, much like every other industry, is eventually going to need to adapt to the Internet marketplace

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CarMax is going to buy CARFAX sooner or later and then physical car dealerships are screwed.
 
The theory I guess is that since those driving hybrids are using less gas, then the state is losing out on the tax gained. VA is considering something similar including starting to tax gas at a higher rate given they run $0.10-$0.15 less than NC typically. States like SC likely don't care given their tax is so low/nonexistent on fuel.
 
But House leaders were cool to the proposal, which came to light just as Tesla was reporting quarterly profits and earning rave reviews for its Model S sedan – the Motor Trend magazine Car of the Year. House Speaker Thom Tillis said good things about the Tesla sedan after he took it for a test drive, and Gov. Pat McCrory took a spin, too.


Sen. Bill Rabon, a Southport Republican, asked the House Transportation Committee to approve a new version of the franchise dealer regulations with the anti-Tesla provisions stripped out. They were offered in a rewrite of an unrelated bill.
 
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