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Official 2020 Republican National Convention Thread

How his thing is even close is mind boggling.

Oh yeah, 90% pubs just haven't been offered a good enough alternative to a lying grifting racist populist with no work ethic or basic understanding of government, law, civics, diplomacy, or history who surrounds himself with sycophants and ignores scientists, doctors, engineers, and intelligence experts but drops everything for calls from despots and dictators.

It's hard being a Republican, so hard. It's just too scary to let taxes be raised a few percentage points on the people they admire and aspire to be, and to let some poors get a little help, no no

I do think Fox News and social media have created an environment that simply makes it easier for the GOP to win elections even when they screw up as badly as Trump has done. I was wondering the other day if in 1932 FDR would have crushed Hoover in the middle of the Great Depression so easily if there had been something similar to Fox and other right-wing news/talk radio types around to brainwash Republicans into believing that the Democrats and a non-POTUS FDR were actually to blame for the government's inept response to the Great Depression instead of President Hoover and other GOP pols. Or if Nixon would have been forced to resign in the Watergate scandal, instead of just riding it out as Trump has done. If - as bad as things are and as clearly as Trump has been a total disaster - a large majority of people don't vote Democratic to win this election, when will they?
 
Living in fantasy land is a pretty big qualifier for being a hardcore conservative. Most positions end up having no actually positive outcome on your life (most are negative) and you eat them up like your big break is just around the corner. Like pick anything, environmental regulations, my large corporation will be formed in a few years just you wait and then it will be a lot cheaper to operate, sir you work as a jet ski mechanic. Taxes, we will lower taxes for the rich and promise to never raise them, fuck yeah less taxes, sir you have zero tax liability, make 40,000 a year, and zero education, yeah but I could win the lottery.
 
I do think Fox News and social media have created an environment that simply makes it easier for the GOP to win elections even when they screw up as badly as Trump has done. I was wondering the other day if in 1932 FDR would have crushed Hoover in the middle of the Great Depression so easily if there had been something similar to Fox and other right-wing news/talk radio types around to brainwash Republicans into believing that the Democrats and a non-POTUS FDR were actually to blame for the government's inept response to the Great Depression instead of President Hoover and other GOP pols. Or if Nixon would have been forced to resign in the Watergate scandal, instead of just riding it out as Trump has done. If - as bad as things are and as clearly as Trump has been a total disaster - a large majority of people don't vote Democratic to win this election, when will they?

Aren’t there conservatives on this very board who try to revisit 1932? I feel like that’s a talking point on right wing radio. You ask modern day pubs they will tell you The New Deal was a failure.
 
Another argument is that Americans are getting dumber and the dumbest amongst us are genuinely more susceptible to propaganda and fear porn. Ever wonder why Republicans hate teachers so much?
 
You are looking at 10-20% of America that has the unique to America aspect of being Evangelical, conditioned to believe anything from someone in authority, unable to think critically, don't ask questions, and accept certifiably false statements such as the age of the earth. Perfect targets for propaganda, fear, and the belief that anything happening is Gods will. I mean shit like moving the embassy because it might accelerate the coming rapture any day now is straight jacket nuts.
 
Aren’t there conservatives on this very board who try to revisit 1932? I feel like that’s a talking point on right wing radio. You ask modern day pubs they will tell you The New Deal was a failure.

I feel like I've been hearing that from Pubs for at least two decades now. They've been trying to undo the New Deal since Reagan. History is always been written.
 
Probably because they are indoctrinating our impressionable young kids with their their science and math. My kids won't even listen to my nonsensical bs anymore because of the truth mongering of their teachers!
 
For an overlooked cognitive dissonance of the right is the attack on science, where on one hand you have scientists telling us what to do and are completely unmovable to new data that would prove them wrong so what they say is just authoritarian bullshit, i.e climate science. On the other hand you have covid-19 why should I listen to scientist they don't know what they are talking about they keep changing what the science is as new information and data become available. Both strictly rigid as well as completely amendable.
 
Aren’t there conservatives on this very board who try to revisit 1932? I feel like that’s a talking point on right wing radio. You ask modern day pubs they will tell you The New Deal was a failure.

Of course if you ask about specific aspects of it they’d support it
 
You are looking at 10-20% of America that has the unique to America aspect of being Evangelical, conditioned to believe anything from someone in authority, unable to think critically, don't ask questions, and accept certifiably false statements such as the age of the earth. Perfect targets for propaganda, fear, and the belief that anything happening is Gods will. I mean shit like moving the embassy because it might accelerate the coming rapture any day now is straight jacket nuts.

10-20% is pretty generous. 90% of Pubs support the reelection of Trump and the Senate majority. When a rich guy gets on TV and tells them everything they want to hear they just can't help themselves.
 
Trump being a wildly disastrous buffoon doesn’t even factor in. Pubs were prepared say that about any and every Democrat. “Well why’d you nominate a socialist like ______, I could have handled a moderate like ______ “ where the second blank is unfillable.
 
Kenosha Tells Us More About Where the Right Is Headed Than the R.N.C. Did


... I said, at the start, that these events lack a direct link to the Republican National Convention, the headline event for conservative politics this week. They do, however, have an indirect link. The night before the killings in Kenosha, Mark and Patricia McCloskey delivered a prime-time address from their St. Louis home as part of the convention’s opening program. The McCloskeys aren’t politicians or activists, they’re trial lawyers, famous for just one reason: brandishing firearms (Mark an AR-15, Patricia a pistol) at passing Black Lives Matter protesters. Their celebrity in conservative circles has everything to do with their threat of violence against people the president has denounced as a threat to the country itself. However ridiculous the McCloskeys may have looked in the media, the fact of the matter is their actions led to a reward. For threatening protesters with death, they were given a chance to speak to the entire nation.

One other thing. Earlier this summer, as the first protests against the death of George Floyd unfolded, President Trump took to Twitter to warn of consequences for those who damaged property. “These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen,” Trump tweeted on a Friday morning in May. “Any difficulty and we will assume control, but when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

Although Trump backpedaled in the face of criticism — claiming, implausibly, that he was making a descriptive statement of what would happen if looting began — his meaning was clear enough: that “looters,” however defined, would and should be shot.

The bully pulpit matters. Presidential rhetoric matters. Rittenhouse was a fan of the president — he took a front-row seat at a January rally in Des Moines — but that connection is less important than the atmosphere created by Trump’s words. A president who speaks of shooting people in the street — who elevates those who threaten to shoot people in the street — cannot be separated from the individual who does, eventually, shoot people in the street.
 
I mean Biden is a run of the mill Democrat. About as establishment as they come and no serious threat (or hope) for any kind of radical change in either direction. It's bewildering that anybody can plausibly allege that Biden is some sort of "the worst of the worst" in Washington or elsewhere but then again consider the source.

06 is absolutely right - regardless of who the candidate was, Sailor would've been on here facedown in applesauce typing up "anybody is better than ____ or Hillary" wearing his "Lock Her Up" shirt with Orban's mug plastered on the back of it.
 
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