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Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: Commander will kill us all

All the while the fucking infrastructure investments made in 10 fucking southern states to lure that factory in are being paid for by cutting education funding.
 
I wish I was super confident in my evidenceless hypotheses. Uncertainty is a bitch.
 
jhmd2000 said:
Wishing the evidence you don't like away =/= lack of evidence
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The data you have thus far provide do not support your conclusion that Dem policy led to an increase in single parent births. The trend was already under way prior to 1965. What you are doing is cherry picking two bits of information to bolster your policy preference, i.e. “illegitimacy rates tripled after 1965.” Your cherry picking fails to acknowledge the properties of a logistic growth curve which the time series data you provided almost certainly fit. Plenty of other hypotheses explain the patterns in the data you provided. For example, tremendous impprovement in infant mortality rates in the 1940s and 50s increased single parent births, or Vietmnam, or increased use of plastics in society, or the clean air act in 1963, Dylan went electric, all of those things happened (and lots of other things) immediately prior to or as the growth curve started hitting its peak slope. So, like I said, you need to collect more data or refine your model. Repeating your unsupported conclusion over and over again doesn’t make it any more true.
 
There are millions of poor people arrested every year for minor drug offenses who can't afford bail, will never be convicted, and yet will remain incarcerated for months and years. Many will never even be tried. So the bullshit authoritarian "don't commit crimes" maxim can get fucked. It's a bullshit prejudicial system that criminalizes poverty and skin color.

If a law results in a bunch of poor people being fucking stuck in jail for years without being convicted, then the goddamned laws are the problem. Any law that results in racially disproportionate occurrences is a problematic law that needs to be reconsidered.

We shouldnt be using the justice system to sweep poors and minorities off the streets like trash. We're just creating an endless cycle of poverty and recidivism by blindly enforcing these weak ass drug laws that we know are going to be broken, and we know exactly who is going to be arrested for breaking them. These laws arent preventing a god damn thing, and they are only hurting the very people that conservatives like jhmd pretend to care about.
 
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jhmd2000 said:
We literally encouraged dependency on government as a matter of policy. The more you needed, the more you got.
Are we really confused why more people started to need it?
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Started to "need it" or more people that needed it began to utilize it? Do you seriously believe that any measurements taken of poverty 70 years ago during Jim Crow were accurate? Or that everyone who needed resources was given them immedietely, year 1, furing Jim Crow? Be serious.
 
Hell, jobs create dependency. On “income” and “employers “. Jobs are therefore a hindrance to true independence.

We need to get back to hunting and gathering or small farm agriculture, bartering, etc. or let’s just skip to a post-apocalyptic scenario where we’re all scratching and clawing for ourselves. Fuck this cooperative bullshit that allows the weak or stupid or disabled or “needy” to suckle from the tits of the strong, abled, and resourceful.
 
jhmd2000 said:
We literally encouraged dependency on government as a matter of policy. The more you needed, the more you got.
Are we really confused why more people started to need it?
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This a description of your model of the system with assumptions about the way people behave. It is not evidence.
 
jhmd2000 said:
Jobs (especially private sector jobs) keep you off public assistance and able to provide for your family. This isn't a mystery. When you open a plant building widgets, people will have jobs at that plant. This is a good thing, contrasted with people not having jobs building widgets. The more you widgets get bought, the more jobs get created. The longer you work at the plant, the more benefits you receive for your service, especially as you get promoted. Government assistance works in reverse: there are no raises. There is no match.you get what they decide to give you. They will take it away if you accumulate too much.
Giving people the option of taking a job building widgets means more people will be able to support themselves and their families than without those jobs. Michigan's loss is Alabama's gain.
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Ok, but you are still talking theory. Still waiting to see some data on how these new jobs in red states have impacted poverty and/or marriages/single parent homes. The criticism of your posts here is about you not providing evidence, so provide some evidence.
 
To me this is huge problem with politics. Everyone one is convinced their model of the how the system works is absolutely correct, when it is really just a model that uses logic and makes assumptions about behavior, etc. No one admits any uncertainty and we don’t need data to support our model because we already know it’s true.
 
How can people say 50 years of government welfare is the culprit not centuries of free market economics?
 
Responsibly governed States like Kentucky that is fourth in the nation in poverty rate and 5th in the nation in single-parent household rate?
 
Kentucky has the 5th highest poverty rate in the nation. Must be that a growing auto industry causes poverty.
 
jhmd2000 said:
I have already shown you the chart that says the problem tripled when we rolled out the Great Society. You guys wish not to see the nexus.
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