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Ongoing NC GOP debacle thread

PhDeac said:
And charters can just close up during the school year out of the blue if they run out of money. If you want to run education like a business, you force education to carry the risks of businesses.
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And when they do that, they've wasted the local school system's money, usually lining the pockets of the administrators and their cronies, while failing far worse than the local public school ever dreamed of, with no recourse.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I may have missed it over the past few pages, but how can North Carolina specifically build more charter schools if they keep cutting taxes? Where are the proposed shifts in tax money coming from?
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Capital budgets in the larger counties (where most of the new public school construction takes place) are funded mostly by local bonds.
 
TownieDeac said:
Choice is a fine idea if you have the following:

A) Space in the best school(s) for unlimited students
B) Money in the budget for unlimited busing
C) Engaged and informed parents making the right decisions

Do any of those things exist in NC?
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Charlotte-Mecklenburg has a system for busing magnet students within certain zones to promote diversity. It's expensive and generally considered a detriment to the overall school system as it fucks up the bell schedules for neighborhood schools.
 
The recent legislation that gives the North Carolina legislature the ultimate say over public “objects of remembrance,” including Confederate memorials, is not about preserving the legacy of the Confederacy. Instead, it will be marked as a monument to racial gerrymandering, racially driven voting laws, a war on the public schools and the authors’ quaking fear of a different kind of North Carolina, one where everyone has an equal and generous chance to blossom with their God-given rights and abilities.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article31123988.html#storylink=cpy/
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BiffTannen said:
Charlotte-Mecklenburg has a system for busing magnet students within certain zones to promote diversity. It's expensive and generally considered a detriment to the overall school system as it fucks up the bell schedules for neighborhood schools.
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They tried busing in Raleigh for a number of years, but the results just weren't there. The short lived GOP board did away with it. Turns out the kids who were failing at the "bad" schools were failing just as bad at the "good" schools, but were hidden by the overall positive stats for those good schools (IIRC).
 
Yeah, hopefully they'll fund some early intervention programs like quality preschool and Head Start and make sure they get to school with a full belly.
 
Deacon923 said:
School starts on Monday, and our major metros can't find enough teachers to teach the kids. Thanks, General Assembly.

http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2015/08/19/nc-classrooms-brace-for-teacher-shortage/
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The fact that most of the openings are for elementary school teachers is particularly worrying. The wait list for being an elementary school teacher used to be really long. My mom taught at that level and had a long list of people she could reach out to if she needed her class to be covered. Particularly recent college graduates who were certified and had student taught, but hadn't gotten full time jobs yet. Not a good sign for the future of NC schools.

But as the article says, why would anyone want to be a public school teacher in NC anymore? All the benefits of taking the marginal paying job are disappearing. Job security, retirement benefits and affordable solid health insurance. Throw in the fact that you're no longer educating, you're teaching how to memorize info for a test. I'd GTFO out too.
 
knowell said:
Good thing that someone is trying to help these low performing schools and students. Hope it works.
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lol

How low do you have to be to royally mess something up, proclaim failure, then claim to be the only ones trying to fix the problem with the "solution" of funneling money to the private sector?
 
Deadbolt said:
They tried busing in Raleigh for a number of years, but the results just weren't there. The short lived GOP board did away with it. Turns out the kids who were failing at the "bad" schools were failing just as bad at the "good" schools, but were hidden by the overall positive stats for those good schools (IIRC).
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Because of course.

Pro tip: when you insist on trying a failed policy for 40 years and the tests show it doesn't work, blame testing.
 
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Integration failed.

Sigh.
 
So how do you get integrated schools without transportation between segregated neighborhoods?
 
PhDeac said:
So how do you get integrated schools without transportation between segregated neighborhoods?
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Ten families with elementary school kids live in our subdivision. Two go to our base school. Three go to charters (and it is three different charters), two go to private/religious schools, three go to year round and two to our base school. In Wake County (the biggest in the state), neighborhood is only one factor.
 
That doesn't answer my question. There are still segregated schools in Wake county.
 
Praise the UNC president, dismiss him without cause, blame the press

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article31907601.html

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Bissette also offered reassurance. “Your comments were fine,” Bissette wrote to Gage. “We knew what the media would do with the story. It is how they sell their product as we have seen with the four year campaign to discredit UNC CH.”

And, Bissette added: “I believe we were trying to do the right thing in attempting to begin a dialogue on succession planning. This is an important part of any Board’s responsibility. This may have gotten a little ahead of itself but no time would have been a good time to address it in the full public disclosure world in which we live.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article31907601.html#storylink=cpy
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