Wakeforest22890
Snowpom
Abortions are legal
What right is worth killing a baby for? You keep saying autonomy, but have not given any example of what that autonomy would grant the mother of the child. I'll ask again: Autonomy to do what?
I will end with this, as my point is getting repetitive. The moment that child is conceived that woman is sharing her body with another person.
I will end with this, as my point is getting repetitive. The moment that child is conceived that woman is sharing her body with another person. I don't believe the pain, burden, and inconvenience of pregnancy and child birth (which are a great burden to bear, and not one I would ever want to bear) are not superior to the right for a human being to live. I think the abortion stance is clearly duplicitous by nature, and also feel very certain that as science advances you will see the reasoning for abortion change in popular culture to come up with a new excuse. Right now it is viability, but viability changes, and will continue to become less and less reasonable when considering destroying a fetus. The mere reality that we have double homicides for the murder of a pregnant woman as a part of our legal system is evidence to the reality that our stance as a nation on abortion is a foolish one. We are destroying millions of children in the womb and can't seem as a nation to open our eyes to the atrocity. Much like slavery we will look back on this period of our existence as a nation and weep for the unborn that we have destroyed.
Good discussion Chill and others. I could not disagree with some of you more, but it was an interesting discussion that made me think. Back to work.
Except they're not making a sales pitch or moralizing. That's not their job. They do give adoption referrals, especially in situations where women are looking for them. They have a purview, however, to provide medical care and advice to women in need.
I will end with this, as my point is getting repetitive. The moment that child is conceived that woman is sharing her body with another person. I don't believe the pain, burden, and inconvenience of pregnancy and child birth (which are a great burden to bear, and not one I would ever want to bear) are not superior to the right for a human being to live. I think the abortion stance is clearly duplicitous by nature, and also feel very certain that as science advances you will see the reasoning for abortion change in popular culture to come up with a new excuse. Right now it is viability, but viability changes, and will continue to become less and less reasonable when considering destroying a fetus. The mere reality that we have double homicides for the murder of a pregnant woman as a part of our legal system is evidence to the reality that our stance as a nation on abortion is a foolish one. We are destroying millions of children in the womb and can't seem as a nation to open our eyes to the atrocity. Much like slavery we will look back on this period of our existence as a nation and weep for the unborn that we have destroyed.
Good discussion Chill and others. I could not disagree with some of you more, but it was an interesting discussion that made me think. Back to work.
I wonder where that idea could have come from? Oh no I don't - one of the nation's two major parties has engaged in a slanderous and systematic effort to distort what PP actually does. Quite frankly it's disgusting.
Against sex ed in schools, against contraceptives, against welfare, against abortion. In favor of yanking on them bootstraps. That's a winner.
Yeah, specific states, such as Michigan, have lately been making it even more difficult to adopt for some strange reason...same people making it more difficult to adopt are also the ones trying to keep women from having abortions. What sense does that make?The U.S. makes it very difficult to adopt. I would open up the federal coffers to encourage families to adopt.
For a party in favor of this practice, it's curious how little you actually want to discuss it.
"You can't be against abortion, you're against welfare!" isn't a very vigorous defense of the practice of abortion on its own merits.
Put another way, I know for me personally I'd be much closer to a pro life position if it weren't for the people making the pro life arguments. Because they're also the people who harp on two parent households (abortions be damned), refuse to consider paid maternity leave (abortion be damned), refuse to speak frankly about sex to their children in schools (abortion be damned), and could generally give two shits once a kid is born into abject poverty (abortion be damned).
Not one of those reasons alone is sufficient to me to warrant feticide. I think abortions should be avoided at all costs and for now, safe, legal, and rare is better than dangerous, illegal, and common.
Oh JHMD and wrangor, how many children have you adopted?