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Republicans for POTUS, 2016 Edition

I thought that is what a lot of posters here have been wanting from a candidate for some time.

The most useful (and necessary) thing Trump has done for the GOP is wipe out social conservatives. They've been holding the party back.

His behavior/temperament is way too erratic. The birthers, Muslims celebrating in Jersey City on 9/11, and Cruz's dad & JFK assassination were bizarre. Alienated women and minorities. Thin skinned and lashes out too quickly and harshly at perceived slights and opponents. Wouldn't trust him at all with nukes and the military.
 
He will move left socially and move right economically.

Other way around. His main message is anti immigration and free trade. If he changes that now, he's a complete sell out, and his followers would revolt. And he's in more of a position of power than Priebus is at this point. So if I'm Trump, I'd say you have to go along with my economic plan period. But I promise to nominate SCOTUS and Court of Appeals justices along the lines of Scalia and Roberts, and I'll let you have a say in picking a veep and cabinet members.
 
Other way around. His main message is anti immigration and free trade. If he changes that now, he's a complete sell out, and his followers would revolt. And he's in more of a position of power than Priebus is at this point. So if I'm Trump, I'd say you have to go along with my economic plan period. But I promise to nominate SCOTUS and Court of Appeals justices along the lines of Scalia and Roberts, and I'll let you have a say in picking a veep and cabinet members.

His followers would revolt? Seriously?
 
His followers don't care about his positions. They care about Trump. He's switched sides on multiple issues already and it hasn't effected him at all.


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His followers do like the Drumpf Reality Show. But they also have taken to his economic message and stands on free trade and immigration. It feeds into their xenophobia and fear of change. So yes, if he suddenly reversed stream and became trickle down, pro immigration reform and free trade, his supporters would be pissed.
 
His followers don't care about his positions. They care about Trump. He's switched sides on multiple issues already and it hasn't effected him at all.


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It hasn't effected him in the GOP primaries. The 90+% white and old voters primaries.

Less than 30% of Republicans in those states have voted. Even if you give him 40% of the total votes cast, you are talking about "his followers" being 12% of Republicans.

We're not talking about 12% of the entire public. It's 12% of registered Republicans.
 
Other way around. His main message is anti immigration and free trade. If he changes that now, he's a complete sell out, and his followers would revolt. And he's in more of a position of power than Priebus is at this point. So if I'm Trump, I'd say you have to go along with my economic plan period. But I promise to nominate SCOTUS and Court of Appeals justices along the lines of Scalia and Roberts, and I'll let you have a say in picking a veep and cabinet members.

Ha! Trump had no plans. His entire presidency (if elected) will be a haphazard mess.
 
The most useful (and necessary) thing Trump has done for the GOP is wipe out social conservatives. They've been holding the party back.

His behavior/temperament is way too erratic. The birthers, Muslims celebrating in Jersey City on 9/11, and Cruz's dad & JFK assassination were bizarre. Alienated women and minorities. Thin skinned and lashes out too quickly and harshly at perceived slights and opponents. Wouldn't trust him at all with nukes and the military.


Yes, much better to elect Hillary and have some ISIS, or other, hacker launch nuclear war through her server. Hillary is so good on national security issues.
 
Rift Grows Wide as Republicans Abandon Trump

Donald J. Trump greeted supporters on Thursday at the Charleston Civic Center in West Virginia. His unexpectedly swift success in the primaries startled Republicans who expected the race to last longer. Ty Wright for The New York Times

A hasty effort to make peace between Donald J. Trump and Republican Party leaders veered toward the point of collapse on Friday as Jeb Bush announced he would not back Mr. Trump in the general election and Mr. Trump unleashed a caustic personal attack on a prominent senator who declined to endorse his campaign.

Since a landslide victory in Indiana made him the presumptive Republican nominee, Mr. Trump has faced a shunning from party leaders that is unprecedented in modern politics. Mr. Trump has struggled to make peace with senior lawmakers and political donors whom he denounced during the Republican primaries, and upon whose largess he must now rely.

In a new sign of the Republican Party’s reservations about Mr. Trump, the top strategist in charge of defending Republican control of the Senate said in a briefing for lobbyists and donors on Thursday that the party’s candidates should feel free to skip the nominating convention in Cleveland in July.

The strategist, Ward Baker, the executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said conventions were a distracting spectacle every four years, according to two people who attended the briefing, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity about the private session. Mr. Baker, the attendees said, told Republican lawmakers that they would be better off talking to voters in their home states.

Andrea Bozek, a spokeswoman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said it was up to “each individual campaign” to decide whether to attend the convention.

On Friday, Mr. Bush’s disavowal of Mr. Trump landed as a bitter blow. The former Florida governor is revered among party veterans and has one of the most powerful fund-raising networks in Republican politics. In a statement, Mr. Bush said his former opponent lacked the “temperament or strength of character” to serve as president.

Mr. Bush’s father and brother, George Bush and George W. Bush, announced earlier in the week that they would not endorse Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump said at a rally in Omaha that he was untroubled by the Bush family’s opposition, and he repeated his past mockery of Jeb Bush as a “low-energy person.” “I’m not surprised at the Bush family, in all fairness, because I’ve been very critical of what happened,” Mr. Trump said.

He reacted with fury to another statement of rejection, from Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Mr. Graham, a longtime Trump critic who briefly ran for president last year, said Friday that Mr. Trump was unfit to be commander in chief.

The populist Manhattan businessman responded with a statement savaging Mr. Graham, a senior spokesman for the party on national security. Mr. Trump boasted that he had “destroyed his hapless run for president” and consigned Mr. Graham to the political ash heap.

“While I will unify the party, Lindsey Graham has shown himself to be beyond rehabilitation,” Mr. Trump said. In Omaha, Mr. Trump branded Mr. Graham “nasty” and called his campaign “a disgrace.”

Mr. Trump’s belittling attack poses a new challenge for a party already riven by frustration and indecision over his campaign. Having campaigned for the Republican nomination on a platform of cracking down on immigration and foreign trade, Mr. Trump now trails Hillary Clinton in general election polls and cannot afford an exodus of voters from the Republican base.

While Mr. Trump’s war on the Republican establishment has galvanized his supporters, it is likely to complicate his efforts to court a broader array of voters, including moderate Republicans, and political benefactors in order to compete in November.

Mr. Trump has acknowledged he will need help from the party’s traditional bankrollers during the general election, when he has said he will no longer finance his campaign from his personal fortune.

He has appeared uncertain of how to respond to the prospect of mass defections from inside the Republican Party. He has said in recent weeks that he favors party unity as a practical matter, but that there are also Republicans whose support he does not believe he needs — and whose support he would not welcome.

Dan Senor, a former adviser to Mitt Romney and Paul D. Ryan in the 2012 election, said Mr. Trump’s dismissive attitude toward his critics could have crippling consequences in a general election.

“They’re still trying to project this mind-set that they’re blowing up the place, blowing up the institution,” Mr. Senor said. “But now they’re talking to 120 or 130 million voters, not a few million in a few states.”

For a transitory moment on Friday, Mr. Trump appeared determined to repair the breach between himself and the party establishment. After clashing sharply with Mr. Trump, Mr. Ryan, the speaker of the House, announced on Friday afternoon that Mr. Trump would visit Washington next week, to meet with congressional Republicans and with Mr. Ryan privately.

Mr. Ryan said Thursday that he was not ready to endorse Mr. Trump, a statement widely interpreted as signaling to Republicans that they would face no pressure to close ranks around Mr. Trump. In a terse statement, Mr. Trump retorted that he did not support Mr. Ryan’s policy agenda.

Next week’s meeting between the two men, Mr. Ryan’s office said, will concern “Republican principles and ideas that can win the support of the American people this November.”

Mr. Trump conceded in a television interview on Friday morning that he had been surprised by Mr. Ryan’s rebuke, and he sounded exasperated by the party leadership’s unwillingness to rally to his candidacy. “You talk about unity,” Mr. Trump said, “but what is this?”


Ha: what a shit show. Wake has a better chance making the NCAA's next year than the Pubs being competitive.
 
Trump will have to move right to secure Republicans and move to the middle to get some headway with independents and keep his xenophobic base while trying to get some support from minorities. It's a tough dance.

Trump can be in the middle, the right, and the left of an issue all in the same interview.
 
Heidi Cruz compares her husband’s failed presidential campaign to the fight against slavery

“I don’t want you to feel like any of this was in vain,“ Heidi Cruz said during a conference call with the campaign’s National Prayer Team on Tuesday, according to the Texas Tribune. "I believe in the power of prayer. This doesn’t always happen on the timing of man, and God does not work in four-year segments.

"Be full of faith and so full of joy that this team was chosen to fight a long battle,” she continued. “Think that slavery — it took 25 years to defeat slavery. That is a lot longer than four years.”

People are generally focusing on the slavery part of Heidi's quote (which took 25 years to defeat, apparently), but the worst part to me is that it sounds like Ted Cruz is already preparing to run again in 2020.
 
Maybe then she can compare her husband's failed campaign to the fight against the Nazis. I mean we are bound to end up talking about Hitler again, Goodwin's law and all.
 
A bit off topic- but do you think when Bush II et al. look at the current situation in Iraq, do they still feel that the war was justified/the right decision? Or have they deluded themselves into thinking they did the correct thing.
 
A bit off topic- but do you think when Bush II et al. look at the current situation in Iraq, do they still feel that the war was justified/the right decision? Or have they deluded themselves into thinking they did the correct thing.

I would imagine they blame the entire current cluster fuck of a situation on Obama pulling out too soon.
 
So basically they are saying their plan and system that was put in place pre-Obama wouldn't work without constant US military presence.
 
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