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sailordeac said:
where a person lives has nothing to do with the acuracy of their remarks
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ouch.

typos aside, your credibility drop significantly if you're commenting on the virtues of a system to which you are largely if no part of or subject to.
 
sailordeac said:
where a person lives has nothing to do with the acuracy of their remarks
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Well this isn't true at all.

How would I comment on how life is in Slovenia if I haven't lived there? In itself it brings down the accuracy of a statement if you haven't experienced it.

Also, you are much more likely to have a hands-off attitude towards it because it doesn't impact you in the least.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Well this isn't true at all.

How would I comment on how life is in Slovenia if I haven't lived there? In itself it brings down the accuracy of a statement if you haven't experienced it.

Also, you are much more likely to have a hands-off attitude towards it because it doesn't impact you in the least.
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I grew up in America and lived there for most of my life; did you grow up in Slovakia and live there for most of your life?

are you saying that because the perspective is not the same as yours, it's wrong?
 
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sailordeac said:
I grew up in America and lived there for most of my life; did you grow up in Slovakia and live there for most of your life?

are saying that because the perspective is not the same as yours, it's wrong?
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Absolutely not. You are free to have an opinion on a topic.

I do feel that you may care less about what happens in America because it doesn't impact you in the least. Who cares if our taxes go up unnecessarily for a $14B wall? Who cares if our carbon emissions become extremely dangerous because there are no regulations anymore? Who cares if our government doesn't believe in climate control? Who cares if we stop accepting anybody into our country except white christians? Who cares about defunding Planned Parenthood and leaving thousands of women without the healthcare they need? Who care if LGBTQ lose their rights because of a socially restrictive executive branch?

Why would you care about any of those things if they don't impact you?
 
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Demonwolverine said:
This is part of a conversation I had with a former friend of mine. He was one of my best friends growing up, but has completely gone off the rails since Trump announced his candidacy. He's been on board with him since day 1:

Him: "Did u know nazi Germany's Economy was the best in the world in 1930s?"
Me: "BUT LOOK WHAT HAPPENED! I seriously can't tell if you're joking or not." (He 100% was not joking)
Him: "It happened because he started putting ppl in ovens. U know what the unemployment rate was?"
Me: "You have seriously, completely lost it."

Obviously not everyone is like this, but I know more than my fair share at this point, and not a single one of them considers themselves a racist, xenophobe or neo-nazi. If there is one thing I can't stand it's arguing with the worst or most radical from either side of the aisle, but it is no longer a minority for Trump's supporters, and they now have to be addressed. It used to be that 10% - 20% of people on both sides of the aisle were borderline intolerable, but you hoped the other 40% - 30% would calm them. Well now it's the 40% - 30% of intolerable people drowning out the 10% - 20% of sensible people.
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Yeah I just had one these with a Trumpster the other day:

Her: a friend on mine is thinking about moving home from Boston. Do you thing this neighborhood would be good for them to live in?
Me: It would be as good as anywhere for the money.
Her: It's like all white correct?
Me: You're kidding right?
Her: No, I was serious. I think all colors need to live with their respective color and no mix.
Me: I'm gone, don't contact me again.
Her: What'd I say?
 
TownieDeac said:
sailor is wrong about everything, but questioning his stake in America is dumb

we live in a globalized world whether trump or sailor or anyone else wants to admit it, and when America fucks up the world feels the consequences

dumb thing to chase sailor down for, literally call him out about anything else

like how socialism is simultaneously fascism, hedonism, and left liberalism
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surely we live in a globalized world, though if Trump gets his way, perhaps not as much. You think Sailor's going to feel the consequences like someone living in the US? a great man once said:

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I think I'll just keep pushing #alternativefacts. It got Donald elected, so it must be worth something. Who needs the objective truth anymore?
 
TownieDeac said:
sailor is wrong about everything, but questioning his stake in America is dumb

we live in a globalized world whether trump or sailor or anyone else wants to admit it, and when America fucks up the world feels the consequences

dumb thing to chase sailor down for, literally call him out about anything else

like how socialism is simultaneously fascism, hedonism, and left liberalism
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The impact that he feels is clearly less than somebody living in America.

I shouldn't say that he "doesn't care at all", but he certainly isn't going to feel it like people in the USA are.
 
it's not a bad argument at all, that's ridiculous. why not let all nations of the world participate in the election in some way if the world is as globalized and the US is truly as dominant in affairs as you're asserting
 
ImTheCaptain said:
it's not a bad argument at all, that's ridiculous. why not let all nations of the world participate in the election in some way if the world is as globalized and the US is truly as dominant in affairs as you're asserting
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Pretty sure that just happened.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
The impact that he feels is clearly less than somebody living in America.

I shouldn't say that he "doesn't care at all", but he certainly isn't going to feel it like people in the USA are.
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Personally, I'd rather have a foreigner who is well versed in global politics, world history and macro-economics explain America's current predicament than approximately 99% of the people currently living in the US. Ideally we'd have a majority of Americans who are well versed in at least 1 of the 3 weighing in, but that is clearly not the case at the moment.
 
Demonwolverine said:
Personally, I'd rather have a foreigner who is well versed in global politics, world history and macro-economics explain America's current predicament than approximately 99% of the people currently living in the US. Ideally we'd have a majority of Americans who are well versed in at least 1 of the 3 weighing in, but that is clearly not the case at the moment.
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Sure, if the person is actually "well versed in global politics, world history, and macro-economics". Sailor doesn't fall into any of those categories as far as I can tell.

His primitive stances on Islam and what words actually mean makes me question his political intelligence to begin with.
 
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